tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post1319345706847938687..comments2024-03-19T07:56:00.031-04:00Comments on GROGNARDIA: Open Friday: What's the Appeal?James Maliszewskihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00341941102398271464noreply@blogger.comBlogger79125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-39838525625308120222011-03-22T11:20:41.550-04:002011-03-22T11:20:41.550-04:00I'm here because it's my history too. Mos...I'm here because it's my history too. Most reviews of games you've done are familiar to me. As an example, I actually ran a couple of Space Opera game sessions way back then. The problem I had was that a sandbox type gamme without the players having a handle on the universe background and little GM experience back then made the game directionless.<br /><br />My first purchase was the AD&D 1e MM, since it was the only AD&D book printed at the time. I would guess the "edition wars" then biased me against the LBB's and OD&D and clones seem to simplified in comparison. So I find it interesting reading your ongoing exploration of the OD&D style rules-sets.<br /><br />My rules path went through AD&D 1e, Space Opera, CoC, GURPS, plus a background of SPI wargames. After a break from RPG's, I looked at AD&D 2e, but decided against it when I saw I needed a 40 page houserules set to define which rules/supplements were in or out, and which rules needed fixing. I looked at 3e and realised that it fixed nearly all the issues I had with 2e but still had the same gameplay. Unfortunately 4e came out shortly afterwards, which I tried, but it was a different game, missing the fighting/spellcasting differences and too focussed on tactical combat. Pathfinder is now my choice for a fantasy ruleset using levels and classes. I have no problem with skills and feats (advantages) given my GURPS background.<br />Having looked for a more story driven game with less rules crunch than GURPS (which has really good background/campaign supplements), I've found FATE (Spririt of the Century, Starblazer, Legend of Anglerre).<br />In the meantime, my Pathfinder players are having fun exploring some classics in my ongoing campaign based in the Judges Guild Wilderlands and have been through Caverns of Thracia and S2 (both in 3e revised format with on the fly PF translation). The differing styles - naturalistic vs trap dungeon provide variety.Xenushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12783174704137481499noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-21359818536020615032011-03-18T08:59:33.438-04:002011-03-18T08:59:33.438-04:00What I am doing here, indeed? There's a thing ...What I am doing here, indeed? There's a thing I share wiht Mr. Maliszewski: the disliking for "modern school" ways. I quit the hobby because I could no longer whithstand lineal plots and railroading. I bought a laptop and start playing roguelikes instead, from 'Moria' to 'Angband' to 'ToME' to 'Falconseye' to 'Dungeon Crawl'. Last year, articles from John Harris at www.gamesetwatch.com made me aware of the "old school" movement. Retro-clones have brought back to live my interest in RPG.<br /><br />Now, Mr. Maliszewski style is both instructive and amusing. I think that roguelikes, Pokémon and the first Resident Evil beat tabletop RPGs. But Grognardia is casting a shadow of doubt on my otherwise skeptical mind: maybe I am mistaken?anonimous, emperador en el exiliohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13204169087393199959noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-12777515783304522632011-03-16T00:24:01.913-04:002011-03-16T00:24:01.913-04:00"Because I will happily steal ideas from ANYO..."Because I will happily steal ideas from ANYONE, be they Olde School, New School, Other School, or have no class at all." <br />That works for me too...<br /> <br />I don't much care for the class/level/alignment element of D&D but I like the general aesthetics of the OSR... fewer rules, more DIY, more emphasis on what RPGs do best vs. trying to compete with video games.Timmy Crabcakeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14737954661234574830noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-4246444807758975062011-03-14T14:45:12.517-04:002011-03-14T14:45:12.517-04:00What I am doing here, indeed? There's a thing ...What I am doing here, indeed? There's a thing I share wiht Mr. Maliszewski: the disliking for "modern school" ways. I quit the hobby because I could no longer whithstand lineal plots and railroading. I bought a laptop and start playing roguelikes instead, from 'Moria' to 'Angband' to 'ToME' to 'Falconseye' to 'Dungeon Crawl'. Last year, articles by John Harris, who writes a column about roguelikes at www.gamesetwatch.com, made me aware of the "old school" movement. Retro-clones have brought back to live my interest in RPG.<br /><br />Now, Mr. Maliszewski style is both instructive and amusing. I think that roguelikes, Pokémon and the first Resident Evil beat tabletop RPGs. But Grognardia is casting a shadow of doubt on my otherwise skeptical mind: maybe I am mistaken?anonimous, emperador en el exiliohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13204169087393199959noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-51661349865911912652011-03-12T16:51:12.607-05:002011-03-12T16:51:12.607-05:00*The intellectual urge to probe the bedrock of the...*The intellectual urge to probe the bedrock of the hobby<br /><br />*Intelligent observations<br /><br />*The genuine need to reach the refined essence of D&D, weeding out the unnecessary and diluting side factors that have stuck to the genre.<br /><br />*The great insights: 'Bad fantasy fiction as a genre has become a snake that feeds on itself, influencing and being influenced by D&D' <br /><br />...and finally a little criticism:<br /><br />*I enjoy this blog, despite its harsh attitude towards White Wolf games. Everyone seems to forget that WW games and W.o.D. were very much the products of 90s. Thus, they naturally reflect their zeitgeist. That was the age of Vertigo comics and Se7en and The Crow, Dark City, Matrix... in short that was the age of Millenial Angst. Of course they were pretentious.<br /><br />And who can tell that Retro-clone movement is not a byproduct of this zeitgeist. Perhaps in 2020s people are gonna look back and say 'well, those games had an excess of rules. They forgot about the story.'<br /><br />or maybe not.<br /><br />Anyway in short, for me, this is the sharpest and most intelligent blog around.<br /><br />Long live Grognardia.Murat Başekimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04048841259995274122noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-63018546354019109182011-03-12T16:49:43.362-05:002011-03-12T16:49:43.362-05:00*The intellectual urge to probe the bedrock of th...*The intellectual urge to probe the bedrock of the hobby<br /><br />*Intelligent observations<br /><br />*The genuine need to reach the refined essence of D&D, weeding out the unnecessary and diluting side factors that have stuck to the genre.<br /><br />*The great insights: 'Bad fantasy fiction as a genre has become a snake that feeds on itself, influencing and being influenced by D&D' <br /><br />These are what make this blog priceless.<br /><br />...and finally a little criticism:<br /><br />*I enjoy this blog, despite its harsh attitude towards White Wolf games. Everyone seems to forget that WW games and W.o.D. were very much the products of 90s. Thus, they naturally reflect their zeitgeist. That was the age of Vertigo comics and Se7en and The Crow, Dark City, Matrix... in short that was the age of Millenial Angst. Of course they were pretentious.<br /><br />And who can tell that Retro-clone movement is not a byproduct of this zeitgeist. Perhaps in 2020s people are gonna look back and say 'well, those games had an excess of rules. They forgot about the story.'<br /><br />or maybe not.<br /><br />Anyway in short, for me, this is the sharpest and most intelligent blog around.<br /><br />Long live Grognardia.Murat Başekimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04048841259995274122noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-80614463304696041642011-03-12T13:28:28.848-05:002011-03-12T13:28:28.848-05:00I played some Basic/Expert D&D after I was int...I played some Basic/Expert D&D after I was introduced into the hobby with Traveller, before a lifetime of playing RuneQuest, Stormbringer, Savage Worlds, Wordplay, and a myriad of indie games. But I like your literary style, your consistent views on D&D, your delight in discovering games like RunQuest that you missed the first time over, and basically, you write a good blog. I have run some D&D in the last decade, and I am going to play some Pathfinder, but whilst I like the concept of old skool, I am not really ever going to really gel with the class/level gestalt.s7610rahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02658417201343534248noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-60642864759281895472011-03-12T10:22:15.748-05:002011-03-12T10:22:15.748-05:00There is enough similarity between OD&D and AD...There is enough similarity between OD&D and AD&D 1st Ed, that I find ideas and discussions presented on this site useful to my game.Brooser Bearhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08487438364129415650noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-62821535173409312142011-03-12T09:19:59.898-05:002011-03-12T09:19:59.898-05:00You don't gratuitously swear.
I'll secon...<i>You don't gratuitously swear. </i><br /><br />I'll second that. For some reason, unexplained to me, a lot of bloggers must really think it's <i>wicked cool</i> to swear.Sorenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02485097316924991612noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-7697193763059686592011-03-12T01:50:37.398-05:002011-03-12T01:50:37.398-05:00The writing quality.
You are not a bomb thrower.
Y...The writing quality.<br />You are not a bomb thrower.<br />You don't gratuitously swear.<br />Your posts are well thought out.<br />Your creative ideas.<br />I care about the subject matter (note this is last on the list, it may be what drew me here, but the above keeps me here)Michaelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11656554193044378009noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-49565213355956506472011-03-11T23:44:00.306-05:002011-03-11T23:44:00.306-05:00I was reading this blog for a couple of months bef...I was reading this blog for a couple of months before I even considered running an OS game; in fact when I first heard of the OSR a year or so back, my first reaction was something along the lines of, "now there's a daft notion if I ever heard one - why would I go back to using a system I thought was woefully inadequate 30 years ago?"<br /><br />I read the blog for its interesting articles and ideas (usable with any system), and for the nostalgic sense of shared experience.<br /><br />As a D&D player I'd probably want to play 4E - the options and abilities seem great; as a DM I'm thinking about using Pathfinder as a "perfected" 3E game (and there was a lot about 3E I liked - 3E as written very much took the way our group "played" 2E and smoothed out the wrinkles).<br /><br />However, reading this and a few other OS blogs (Dreams in the Lich House is great too), made me realize that OS D&D might be exactly what I needed for the school games club I run. The idea of teaching and running 4E for a large pack of 12-15 year olds was definitely a frightening prospect.<br /><br />I picked up LotFP, and recently got a set of the Moldvay Basic & Expert rules (Moldvay's sets being ones I'd skipped over "back in the day"). I started my Junior High crew on rolling up LotFP characters, and it only took them an hour and a half or so to design their first characters, and try out a quick mini-encounter.<br /><br />I'll probably end up mutating Raggi's LotFP into something closer to 1E AD&D over time, but for now it looks like a great introductory level game.JBMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13915780514486101083noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-66430683896176123742011-03-11T21:26:03.542-05:002011-03-11T21:26:03.542-05:00I enjoy reading about both old games and pulp fict...I enjoy reading about both old games and pulp fiction. I actually don't pay much attention to Dwimmermount.Prosfilaeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08567819936724569257noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-688815832786303192011-03-11T21:22:03.132-05:002011-03-11T21:22:03.132-05:00I know you from back before Grognardia (the days w...<i>I know you from back before Grognardia (the days when you were a Ph. D. candidate in medieval philosophy and hung out on Eyrie). </i><br /><br />Wait a sec... so it's <b>Doctor</b> Maliszewski???Greyhawk Grognardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13929743865700766901noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-26874688787371739772011-03-11T21:13:20.312-05:002011-03-11T21:13:20.312-05:00I can't add much.
When you talk of old product...I can't add much.<br />When you talk of old products, I find it nostalgic.<br />When you talk of old rules or art, I find it quaint and sometimes amusing.<br />When you groan about the WotC, I usually just move on to the next post, as I don't believe in the edition wars.Claytonianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10427928164050640466noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-80592301984029000972011-03-11T19:23:44.468-05:002011-03-11T19:23:44.468-05:00Been playing RPGs since 1980 as well; 4E is pretty...Been playing RPGs since 1980 as well; 4E is pretty much the D&D I've liked best of all the various incarnations. But I continue to read Grognardia because . . .<br /><br />1. I know you from back before Grognardia (the days when you were a Ph. D. candidate in medieval philosophy and hung out on Eyrie). So a personal connection.<br /><br />2. As several have said, much of the content the OSR produces is perfectly adoptable for use in 3E and 4E D&D. For example, I will be stealing Father Wicked for use in my own 4E campaign--he's just that cool.<br /><br />3. Your love of the pulps. I know you don't care for a lot of recent fantasy fiction, but our interests in the genre perfectly intersect in the Old Weird moment of REH, HPL, and CAS (with Leiber as Paul to their original disciples).<br /><br />There are other reasons, but my seven month old son is screaming his head off right now, and I have to help my wife. :)Rob Barretthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17791752557408134270noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-48724734478232261172011-03-11T18:01:33.702-05:002011-03-11T18:01:33.702-05:00Like someone else mentioned, I'm an old gamer ...Like someone else mentioned, I'm an old gamer but not an Old School Gamer. I haven't played D&D since around 1983 and don't ever envision myself doing so again. The only 'old school' systems I play are ones that I never felt went out of style such as T&T and BRP and modern systems I find to be an appropriate evolution for narrative play. And more than fantasy, I prefer modern occult/horror gaming.<br /><br />That being said, I really appreciate your blog. It did restore a nostalgic love of the old days and made me remember what I loved of that time to try and bring it into my modern practice.<br /><br />As others have mentioned, your writing is excellent and your arguments presented in such a way as to be worthwhile to myself, even when I disagree (i.e., it provokes thought and clarity).<br /><br />Your retrospectives are wonderful and maybe most suprisingly, seeing what is going on in the D&D OSR has made increased my appreciation of that game (in all its additions) and players of that game.<br /><br />If you keep blogging, I'll keep reading!Osskorreihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14408780872015323307noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-67281087836772285192011-03-11T17:08:34.031-05:002011-03-11T17:08:34.031-05:00Two main reasons:
1) When it comes to mechanics, ...Two main reasons:<br /><br />1) When it comes to mechanics, I prefer 3.x/4E, but for "spirit", I'm partial to the older editions (1E, B/X, etc.). As others have said, I believe feel and style isn't restricted to a particular edition, so I like to read some of the "old school" blogs such as this one.<br /><br />2) Many of the "old school" blogs I've encountered spend too much time bashing new editions (and their players), or wallowing in "One True Way"-ism or ridiculous drama, etc. You generally write about things you like rather than berating things you don't like, and when you discuss something you dislike it's done in a respectful and thorough manner (something which is lacking on the Internet in general).Bruce Gulkehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15081187619078854281noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-77105114687847594242011-03-11T16:37:35.198-05:002011-03-11T16:37:35.198-05:00I'm interested in gaming blogs that have inter...I'm interested in gaming blogs that have interesting and/or intelligent commentary, and is active and timely. That pretty much describes Grognardia.<br /><br />As for the old school movement, these blogs either create useful items that I'm interested in for other games (say, usings Dyson's maps from A Character For Every Game for my fantasy games) or they wallow in pre-d20 D&D nostalgia. While today I'm far more interested in playing Thousand Suns than any edition of Dungeons & Dragons, I still have fond memories of my D&D gaming back in the 80s. As such, I enjoy the nostalgia, despite having moved on to (IMO) more relevant and interesting roleplaying games.Reverend Keithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11957368852789992095noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-77082645362613592472011-03-11T16:34:05.677-05:002011-03-11T16:34:05.677-05:00I'm still here because I like reading the hist...I'm still here because I like reading the history, the opinions, and the Retrospectives. I am an Old Gamer (ca.1980, I think), but not so much of an Old School Gamer. My main D&D group plays 3.5e and may switch to Pathfinder in a year or so. My other RPG group is in Savage Worlds, and moves around various games. My favorite wargames, which I still get to play, are generally 1980s ones. <br /><br />I would like to take another shot at 1e or 2e AD&D someday, and I still have the books for that. I bought the Classic Traveller reprints some time ago, and would like to give that a whirl someday. I am a sometime participant in the Star Frontiers revival, Twilight:2000 and Dead Games Society Forums. In short, I am an OSR wannabe, just waiting for the opportunity to spring it on a group (my oldest son will play anything, for instance...)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-65248667816971484902011-03-11T14:38:34.779-05:002011-03-11T14:38:34.779-05:00Actually what brought me here was that I was feeli...Actually what brought me here was that I was feeling nostalgic about D&D one day and wanted to hear people talk about one of my favorite modules, B4. I put B4 in google, and lo and behold! I got Grognardia.<br /><br />Cheers,<br />BlaiseBlaisehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11540765488623200141noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-26833392126344699502011-03-11T14:36:25.049-05:002011-03-11T14:36:25.049-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.Blaisehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11540765488623200141noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-58473444876632813832011-03-11T13:54:45.152-05:002011-03-11T13:54:45.152-05:00To make a long story short: I don't play oldsc...To make a long story short: I don't play oldschool D&D currently, though I will begin doing so in roughly a week's time. And, frankly, that's *because* of your blog, sir-- the quality of your writing and the depth of your passion.<br /><br />Of course, there are no doubt other bloggers who write about, say, fishing, with the same passion, verve, and clarity, and you won't see me breaking out the tackle-box. So, I have had an interest in OD&D, even when I wasn't planning on playing it, because there's something romantic and mysterious, and even a little hilarious, about the Old Ways, about rolling to open doors, consulting matrixes to see if you hit descending AC, and a level-one wizard dying on his first adventure because the goblin rolled a six for damage.<br /><br />So I had an interest in OD&D-- one that began largely as a bemused "Wow, things were crazy back in the day" and that was transformed into something more respectful, something approaching less a lark and more of a genuine interest in playing the game. And that transformation, again, is due to your work on this blog.<br /><br />I might not always agree with what you have to say about the game's current incarnation-- even as I run this LBB campaign of mine, I'm still going to run and enjoy, with many of the same players, my 4E game-- but I'll keep reading your blog for your insights into OD&D, and the history of the hobby in general.Tom Russellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01943912870055113512noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-69803350057893022782011-03-11T13:46:34.682-05:002011-03-11T13:46:34.682-05:00Theres a huge nostalgia factor for me. I forget h...Theres a huge nostalgia factor for me. I forget how I came to find your blog but I was immediately enthralled by the articles and (especially) the images from all the old games I remember from my younger days. I was in my mid-teens in the early 80's and was right there for all the first gen rpg products. I owned lots of them (Top Secret, Gamma World, Boot Hill, Gangbusters, Chill, Call of Cthulhu and of course D&D) but oddly I've hardly ever actually played any of them. Other than a few underwhelming sessions of AD&D in the early 80's I haven't ever played an RPG. The only one I still own is CoC (I've got the 2nd ed box set and the 5th ed book as well as some supplements). Over the years, I've pulled the CoC stuff out and paged through it and thought "man I'd like to get a game of this going somehow" but the dream has never materialised. <br /><br />However, reading this blog and a few other sites over the past couple of months has really re-ignited my rpg mojo - so much so that I've ordered the Dragon Warriors core book and I actually went out and bought some dice the other day! lol...so who knows. :)Donhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00323022731513484213noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-81381740951230230332011-03-11T13:44:14.973-05:002011-03-11T13:44:14.973-05:00I love reading this blog because, which I am not a...I love reading this blog because, which I am not actively involved in much gaming activity at all these days, I have a strong sense of nostalgia for the good old days playing many of the games discussed in this blog. I grew up during the so-called golden age of RPGs (I played mainly 1979-1987)and I love how this blog takes me back and reminds me of things I haven't thought about in 20+ years. Right now I have a 7 year old son who is showing a strong interest in all things fantasy (LotR, fantasy themed computer-games, etc.); in the next couple of years I would love to introduce him to all of the gaming experience I had when I was a kid. (In fact, I recently purchased a copy of 3rd Ed. based on a blog post here a few months back which discussed how it brought you back into D & D. Even so, I also picked up a 1st ed. copy of WFRP - my personal favorite from - so a prolonged D & D campaign is not a given). If my son decides, later on, that he'd rather play 4th ed., or 4.5, or whatever, at least I'll have given him a little taste of what gaming was like back in the day, and maybe he can return the favor and introduce me to a "new school" RPG I've never head of.HgManhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02841404043556836460noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-59313740269520962322011-03-11T13:24:04.995-05:002011-03-11T13:24:04.995-05:00I'm primarily a "new school" player ...I'm primarily a "new school" player (<i>Pathfinder</i> right now) even though I grew up with the Moldvay Basic D&D set back in the early 80's. <br /><br />For me, what brings me back to your blog several times a day are:<br /><br /><b>1) The quality writing.</b> I think you've done a great job of learning how to clearly and concisely state your points, but still keep the writing from being dry. <br /><b>2) Your love and passion for things that I'd long ago given up as being "childish" or just too "primitive" for my gaming needs.</b> I first stumbled across your site when someone on the Paizo boards mentioned one of your posts about Gygaxian Naturalism, and I was intrigued immediately. That post sucked me in and I saw a bunch of links to other posts you wrote about Gamma World and other old games. It's like I found a "home" here, reading someone else's memories of the same games I grew up with, and it helps that we're roughly the same age.<br /><b>3) Your ideas.</b> This is mainly coming from your Dwimmermount posts, but I love reading how you come up with stuff kind of on-the-fly to respond to what your players are doing. The entire milieu of Dwimmermount including the talking animals, the lost Earth scientist, the alien elves, the Cthulhu influences... it's all so fascinating to read. <br /><b>4) Your Ideas, Part 2.</b> Even though I wouldn't consider myself an old-school gamer, at the end of the day - an RPG is an RPG. I can take an idea you come up with and use it in my game. My players don't need to know that the stats don't exactly fit the format of the system I'm using. I'm experienced enough to adjudicate on-the-fly if things aren't working out. I'm not going to stifle my creative "stealing" by only reading what other <i>Pathfinder</i> players are doing. <br /><b>5) Nostalgia.</b> I love your retrospectives because I remember seeing ads in <i>Dragon</i> magazine for pretty much every one of the things you write about, even if I didn't end up buying them. It's fun to see what you say about the ones that I never ended up buying. <br /><b>6) Education.</b> Your Fantasy Pulp Library posts are ones that I keep tabs on because I kind of started my foray into fantasy literature with people like Burroughs and with Howard's Conan stories. It's really great to read about all of these other stories that I can add to my list to check out soon. <br /><b>7) Inspiration.</b> Based on your blog, I ended up starting an old-school 1st Edition AD&D game through the <i>Expedition to the Barrier Peaks</i>, primarily using OSRIC, which I never would have even heard of had I not stumbled across your blog one day. It's been one of my most favorite gaming experiences ever. <br /><br />So... pretty much what everybody else is saying. :)Martin R. Thomashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11672657745232101753noreply@blogger.com