tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post1631360537290469974..comments2024-03-18T20:22:06.331-04:00Comments on GROGNARDIA: Speaking of Missing the Point ...James Maliszewskihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00341941102398271464noreply@blogger.comBlogger44125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-47783312732920123872009-11-25T08:15:30.112-05:002009-11-25T08:15:30.112-05:00The idea is quite interesting but I prefer the vid...The idea is quite interesting but I prefer the video about the game itself. IMHO Anime style is not the best option available to advartise the game(and is not so original since we have a lot of anime and manga inspired by western literature masterpice).<br />Furthermore, the original idea about Dante fighting in Hell was in an Italian comics: http://www.fratellimattioli.it/dante2pr.htm<br />(The first illustration say: "This time is different, Virgilio... this time I'm here to kick ass!!!"). Very funny ideed.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-675402815737588252009-11-24T15:44:20.005-05:002009-11-24T15:44:20.005-05:00Weird. I just finished watching the new version of...Weird. I just finished watching the new version of The Prisoner a few minutes ago. I wasn't all that impressed, though I like Ian McKellen well enough. I had never seen the original (though that's available through my cable provider, too), so I have no opinion on whether they ruined it. The original novelization by Tom Disch is supposed to be awful, I understand, though his work is brilliant otherwise.metamorphosissigmahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18163514061779555557noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-59899541430859767632009-11-24T11:54:00.932-05:002009-11-24T11:54:00.932-05:00"How about the Prisoner remake?"
Didn&#..."How about the Prisoner remake?"<br /><br />Didn't watch it. I was tempted to (because of the aforementioned Sir Ian), but any temptations to betray my devotion to the original series was lifted when I saw in a preview that Six was a marketing executive instead of a spy (a plot change that would have had me rooting for the Village!;)Alhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01682401446176099294noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-73583720097205911522009-11-24T11:49:32.231-05:002009-11-24T11:49:32.231-05:00Confession time: I've never much cared for The...Confession time: I've never much cared for <i>The Prisoner</i>, so the remake doesn't really bug me that much. From what I have read, though, the remake deviates quite significantly from the original and in ways that aren't entirely felicitous.James Maliszewskihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00341941102398271464noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-87974043550265186922009-11-24T11:46:45.287-05:002009-11-24T11:46:45.287-05:00How about the Prisoner remake?
I wasn't happy...How about the Prisoner remake?<br /><br />I wasn't happy with it myself, buy you gotta love Sir Ian.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09008362389081964297noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-60547475803157103062009-11-24T11:31:34.678-05:002009-11-24T11:31:34.678-05:00http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2YMTz9AorHQhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2YMTz9AorHQ_andrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08488071199643926290noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-14351394434717220392009-11-24T10:56:00.395-05:002009-11-24T10:56:00.395-05:00Yeah, I saw the trailer for the Clash of the Titan...Yeah, I saw the trailer for the <i>Clash of the Titans</i> remake and, all other thoughts aside, I found myself wondering, "Why?" I mean, I'm generally down on remakes, it's true, but there are many things I could imagine being worth remaking for one reason or other. But <i>Clash of the Titans</i>? Really?James Maliszewskihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00341941102398271464noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-16576779625018483962009-11-24T10:11:55.572-05:002009-11-24T10:11:55.572-05:00Not trying to justify anything, I think it's l...Not trying to justify anything, I think it's looked stupid as all get-out from day 1, but you have to admit that the actual poem itself would make for exceedingly dull gameplay.Rachel Ghoulhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04765944479141792643noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-6947579440632946142009-11-24T10:07:58.293-05:002009-11-24T10:07:58.293-05:00I've talked to guys who do concepting and desi...I've talked to guys who do concepting and design stuff for movies. (Not trying to come off as Mister Big Expert, it's just that I've met folks in the biz in the course of my work.)One time I was talking to an old pro, and he told me something that makes all kinds of sense, as sad as it is. <br /><br />The reason source material gets so heavily adulterated in Hollywood, is because screenwriters need to be able to point to something in the script and claim credit for it. They can't justify their paycheck if it's just a straight lift of an existing work. <br /><br />In the end it's all about business, sadly. The good writers can keep the spirit even if they alter the text, but even they are compelled by the bottom line to make changes. <br /><br />This is made even worse by the fact that the people signing the checks often have no connection to the material, emotionally or intellectually. Like "Dante's Inferno" in this case, it's usually just a name they've heard, so they feel a "little" safer about gambling the big bux on a production. <br /><br />It's a constant wonder to me how cargo cult fetishistic name recognition can be in Hollywood. <br /><br />Anyway, yah. It's annoying.BigFellahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03052419088140204154noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-71420668581003588732009-11-24T09:57:51.566-05:002009-11-24T09:57:51.566-05:00Speaking of Clash of the Titans, did you see that ...Speaking of Clash of the Titans, did you see that there is a remake?<br /><br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uX1VZ26nCAsBruxisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10281470286169023371noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-71741481268942761052009-11-24T09:43:13.893-05:002009-11-24T09:43:13.893-05:00http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2008/12/15/http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2008/12/15/Bruxisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10281470286169023371noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-18355966081622667262009-11-24T09:16:07.613-05:002009-11-24T09:16:07.613-05:00So, what you're saying is that you hated Clash...<i>So, what you're saying is that you hated Clash of the Titans? This is an old tradition, and just because it's Christian mythology (or "literature", if you prefer) this time doesn't mean that it should be immune.</i><br /><br>I was that kid who spent all his time criticizing the movie for the extreme liberties it took with Greek mythology. Perseus was always a favorite Greek hero of mine, so I was excited by the idea of a film version of his tale. What we got was something that bore only the most minimal resemblance to its inspirations. <i>Jason and the Argonauts</i> was more faithful to its source material than <i>Clash of the Titans</i>.<br /><br />As for <i>Dante's Inferno</i>, I am willing to accept <i>some</i> degree of artistic license, but, when that license so utterly warps the source material as this one does, I draw a line. That goes for most film "adaptations," not just those based on works I happen to adore.James Maliszewskihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00341941102398271464noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-18889181243961226362009-11-24T09:11:52.263-05:002009-11-24T09:11:52.263-05:00Am I the only one who thought this movie would be ...<i>Am I the only one who thought this movie would be about 10 times cooler if it had been titled "A Paladin in Hell" instead of "Dante's Inferno"?</i><br /><br>It would certainly be less bothersome to me, although, from what I have gleaned of its plot, it'd still make next to no sense whatsoever.James Maliszewskihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00341941102398271464noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-51162365012534139162009-11-24T09:11:07.976-05:002009-11-24T09:11:07.976-05:00If someone made it like an animated version of Gus...<i>If someone made it like an animated version of Gustave Doré metal carvings, and was pure to the book, that would just be so %&%$ing EPIC!!!</i><br /><br>That would be amazing. Personally, I think <i>The Divine Comedy</i>, as written, is plenty exciting enough to be made into a film (animated or otherwise) without the need to make it "sexier" with the importation of a very modern revenge plot.James Maliszewskihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00341941102398271464noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-24388010867935190212009-11-24T09:09:02.409-05:002009-11-24T09:09:02.409-05:00[And my favourite translation is Dorothy L Sayers....<i>[And my favourite translation is Dorothy L Sayers. Not only manages the translation, but keeps the rhyming scheme and structure of the original.]</i><br /><br>The Sayers translation is one of my favorites as well. I know it's fallen out of favor these days, but I still have much fondness for it.James Maliszewskihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00341941102398271464noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-68339426967828411672009-11-24T09:05:55.923-05:002009-11-24T09:05:55.923-05:00So the plot isn't completely Hollywood schlock...<i>So the plot isn't completely Hollywood schlock.</i><br /><br>No, it's not and, again, my beef with it is not that it's schlock but rather that it appropriates the name of part I of <i>The Divine Comedy</i> and then does a hatchet job on its supposed inspiration, clearly missing its point.James Maliszewskihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00341941102398271464noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-38791177903425473992009-11-24T08:15:09.307-05:002009-11-24T08:15:09.307-05:00"What bugs me is that they're even bother..."What bugs me is that they're even bothering to call this thing "Dante's Inferno." I mean, if all they want to do is present a medieval-styled story about a knight seeking to save his love who's lost in hell, why not just do that? Why try to associate it with a famous work whose content and themes are (seemingly) quite different? I just hate how companies like to trade on the fame of certain names and then do them so little justice."<br /><br />So, what you're saying is that you hated <i>Clash of the Titans</i>? This is an old tradition, and just because it's Christian mythology (or "literature", if you prefer) this time doesn't mean that it should be immune.faoladhhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03691952430041394614noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-57760435257177192172009-11-24T08:06:43.171-05:002009-11-24T08:06:43.171-05:00Am I the only one who thought this movie would be ...Am I the only one who thought this movie would be about 10 times cooler if it had been titled "A Paladin in Hell" instead of "Dante's Inferno"?Alhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01682401446176099294noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-63267310520284899712009-11-24T05:58:56.926-05:002009-11-24T05:58:56.926-05:00Hmm, I kinda like it.
I'll get me coat...Hmm, I kinda like it.<br /><br />I'll get me coat...Simonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01173759805310975320noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-85156971096917740912009-11-24T00:58:45.606-05:002009-11-24T00:58:45.606-05:00Weeeeelllll, it's anime, so you can pretty muc...Weeeeelllll, it's anime, so you can pretty much expect it to be a blenderization of any Western ideas it might be named for.<br /><br />Also the trailer reminds me of the "Dragon's Lair" laser disc video game of the 80s.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09008362389081964297noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-20671974868921854902009-11-24T00:31:06.590-05:002009-11-24T00:31:06.590-05:00As much as I like Japanimation (what we called it ...As much as I like Japanimation (what we called it before 'anime'), many of these new $#!^ go up my crawl like a jagged thorn bush.<br /><br />If someone made it like an animated version of Gustave Doré metal carvings, and was pure to the book, that would just be so %&%$ing EPIC!!!Malcadonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03111796978336546944noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-7491139445030106432009-11-23T22:37:09.407-05:002009-11-23T22:37:09.407-05:00Thanks, James; that trailer was one of the funnies...Thanks, James; that trailer was one of the funniest things I've ever seen. Somehow reminded me of Mel Gibson as Hamlet.<br /><br />I love to imagine college and high school students using the DVD as Cliff Notes, as a replacement for actually reading Dante, and then trying to write a coherent essay.<br /><br />As for Troy... I read the Fagles translation of Homer's Iliad with my high school English students the year Troy hit the theaters... all of my students who saw the film said they liked the book better.<br /><br />In the whole film, there are very, very few lines that are recognizably inspired by Homer. It's like doing a Shakespeare production, but rewriting all the lines to make them less eloquent and interesting. What's the point?Brian MacKenziehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12752842049666489041noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-82833189347030989892009-11-23T22:02:58.914-05:002009-11-23T22:02:58.914-05:00Ha, ha; truly there is no accounting for taste. I ...Ha, ha; truly there is no accounting for taste. I thought <i>Troy</i> was pretty terrible, but that this looks rather good. The subjectivity of preference, no doubt!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05646247954542936623noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-23244343237880000162009-11-23T20:46:08.030-05:002009-11-23T20:46:08.030-05:00I like the Iliad- but I must confess I enjoyed the...I like the <i>Iliad</i>- but I must confess I enjoyed the hell out of <i>Troy</i>, this thing looks like teh worst kind of schlock, though. Whatever, if somebody likes it good for them- after all I don't have to watch it.Aoshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00145284080419502886noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-41390155570935818572009-11-23T20:00:32.304-05:002009-11-23T20:00:32.304-05:00I always found it disappointing that John Gielgud&...I always found it disappointing that John Gielgud's retelling of <i>The Divine Comedy</i> never made it past Canto 14.<br /><br />I always enjoyed <i>The Divine Comedy</i> for it's political commentary on the politics of Florence at the time. Never piss off a good writer. His work will outlive you and echo down through the ages.<br /><br />[And my favourite translation is Dorothy L Sayers. Not only manages the translation, but keeps the rhyming scheme and structure of the original.]Reverance Pavanehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01217657347160811310noreply@blogger.com