tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post2029375701849114971..comments2024-03-29T00:32:33.920-04:00Comments on GROGNARDIA: Retrospective: 2001: A Space OdysseyJames Maliszewskihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00341941102398271464noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-722174455452297082012-10-07T18:22:07.263-04:002012-10-07T18:22:07.263-04:00a teleological movie about evolution (aka dumb. ak...a teleological movie about evolution (aka dumb. aka Robert Ardrey and Dart's killer ape theory can suck it), and a teleological module? sounds about right.CorpseWizardnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-32048025105810816712012-10-04T13:59:43.024-04:002012-10-04T13:59:43.024-04:00Bad, railroady scenario structure perhaps, but sur...Bad, railroady scenario structure perhaps, but surely all those rules and blueprints provide a good foundation for creating your own Discovery-based campaign.<br /><br />I find it interesting that 2001 reflects a theme that I've noted in a lot of '60s media -- that China, rather than Soviet Russia, was the real long-term threat to the democratic West (the implication being that some sort of accommodation could eventually be reached with the more-or-less culturally European Russians, while the "inscrutable Asians" would eventually bury the West under a human tide).<br /><br />While the economic events of the last decade or so make such a view seem far more plausible, China was so backward at the time (and moving retrograde, via Mao's "Cultural Revolution") that it seemed a lot more science-fictiony. The most striking depiction of such thinking that I recall from the era was the low-budget feature "Project X", which could make an interesting Star Frontiers scenario in its own right.Schill MacGuffinhttp://www.facebook.com/schill.macguffinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-47376206082930017782012-10-04T06:10:53.886-04:002012-10-04T06:10:53.886-04:00Connected? ;)Connected? ;)Antonio Eleuterinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-84425189888085266442012-10-04T05:48:13.305-04:002012-10-04T05:48:13.305-04:00"he interfaced"
What's that in norm..."he interfaced"<br /><br />What's that in normal speech? ;)Dave McDougallnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-65822330375829538712012-10-04T04:50:40.862-04:002012-10-04T04:50:40.862-04:00Yeah, I found it boring and railroady. But I had a...Yeah, I found it boring and railroady. But I had a lot of fun going beyond the limits of The Dawn of Man scenario, to establish The Mighty Ape-man Empire! That was fun! =D<br /><br />Those charts and maps are really nice! If I was to run the game with the ship and crew, I would do a bait-and-switch, with aliens, a murderous crew-member. realistic nightmares during hibernation to trip-out the players, dead crew coming back as zombies, or the like. I would do that, as the only ones I know how would play this game, are also well aware of the movie.Malcadonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-48739355353505766242012-10-04T03:53:10.619-04:002012-10-04T03:53:10.619-04:00Frank Mentzer mentioned he interfaced with Stanley...Frank Mentzer mentioned he interfaced with Stanley Kubrick when designing the 2001 module.Antonio Eleuterinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-67881545020223706872012-10-04T03:52:06.640-04:002012-10-04T03:52:06.640-04:00Absolutely agreed. I used both modules (including ...Absolutely agreed. I used both modules (including the additional rules, skills, equipment etc.) to run a very nice Hard Sci-fi campaign. I never liked Star Frontiers' focus on sentient alien species, and these modules showed that the game could support other types of science fiction.Antonio Eleuterinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-26589566110642551752012-10-03T20:14:32.723-04:002012-10-03T20:14:32.723-04:00I have to disagree. I loved 2001, and it's seq...I have to disagree. I loved 2001, and it's sequel 2010 when they came out and I still have fond memories of them. Perhaps that is because we used them so much as resource materials for adventures after playing through them straightly as written. In fact the primate prequel to the story was a lot of fun and a different, fresh experience. These modules are filled with great details to use Star Frontiers in a near future campaign.Thomas Denmarkhttp://www.facebook.com/thomas.denmarknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-11569792082946985862012-10-03T19:04:18.918-04:002012-10-03T19:04:18.918-04:00As soon as I saw the subject of this post, my firs...As soon as I saw the subject of this post, my first thought was "But the maps and schematics are so pretty!"<br /><br />The 2001 module is pretty stiff, but the 2010 module, while still a railroad, can be more of a nailbiter. The PCs can mess up and have the Discovery and Leonov burn up in Jupiter's atmosphere.<br /><br />I've had these modules since I bought them new, and I occasionally think about how to tweak them to make them more of an adventure than a movie studio theme park tour. Both modules provide some good material worth adapting...especially those pretty maps and ship schematics.Jeffery Blacknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-82022621419108292012-10-03T17:16:25.878-04:002012-10-03T17:16:25.878-04:00Anyone know if Kubrick saw the game or maybe even ...Anyone know if Kubrick saw the game or maybe even played it? I heard a rumor long ago he was a wargaming fan. He even had Ian Watson from Games Workshop work on the screenplay for A.I. at on time.ironfacenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-89749646222975539672012-10-03T15:56:22.333-04:002012-10-03T15:56:22.333-04:00Interesting reading. I have these myself and would...Interesting reading. I have these myself and would welcome your thoughts on the sequel to this.pookie _noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-2519765761113677802012-10-03T14:15:58.257-04:002012-10-03T14:15:58.257-04:00My God ... it's full of railroad!My God ... it's full of railroad!Roger GSnoreply@blogger.com