tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post349750790694392562..comments2024-03-18T20:22:06.331-04:00Comments on GROGNARDIA: Pulp Fantasy Library: Bazaar of the BizarreJames Maliszewskihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00341941102398271464noreply@blogger.comBlogger21125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-88788076524394393972010-11-08T00:18:24.732-05:002010-11-08T00:18:24.732-05:00Funny coincidence, I just re-read this story a few...Funny coincidence, I just re-read this story a few weeks ago, after a gap of about fifteen years since last reading the stories. It really hit me how much of D&D comes from this pair and their adventures. We owe them quite a bit, and the stories are still very readable (not always the case with older literature).Baron Greystonehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16636292202674906870noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-82097240330762943142010-11-08T00:16:54.296-05:002010-11-08T00:16:54.296-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.Baron Greystonehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00308709526041513401noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-28877730149938912552010-11-01T19:25:45.163-04:002010-11-01T19:25:45.163-04:00Apparently the Dragon column was renamed, but ther...Apparently the <i>Dragon</i> column was renamed, but there was enough outcry that it got changed back. I'd like to think the outcry was due, not to fear of change, but a fondness for Leiber.thekelvingreenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01928260185408072124noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-71875795345751829682010-11-01T18:57:23.301-04:002010-11-01T18:57:23.301-04:00Interestingly, Mike Mearls and Dave Noonan brought...Interestingly, Mike Mearls and Dave Noonan brought up Leiber on a D&D podcast in the latter days of 3.5. I think it was about the book Cityscape, but I'm not 100% certain. They spoke of him with some reverence, and thats when I became aware that he wasn't widely available.Mirandahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10745062840676790649noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-8017841911854558402010-11-01T18:32:45.862-04:002010-11-01T18:32:45.862-04:00I believe the Paizo version of Dragon included Baz...<i>I believe the Paizo version of Dragon included Bazaar of the Bizarre articles, though I could be mistaken.</i><br /><br>You're probably correct. I stopped reading <i>Dragon</i> when Reagan was still president, so my knowledge of its regular features and columns after about 1987 or so is minimal at best. I'd simply assumed it hadn't continued on into the WotC era, but I'm likely mistaken.James Maliszewskihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00341941102398271464noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-36688857355300001042010-11-01T18:31:28.286-04:002010-11-01T18:31:28.286-04:00I think this also had an effect on Tekumel, as the...<i>I think this also had an effect on Tekumel, as the company of Gijj, based in the city of Dlash in Livyanu (I think) is basically a large inter-planar trading business, where many things may be had for the right price, and usually that's not money.</i><br /><br>You may well be right about that. It's intimated in several places, as I recall, that Gijj and Sons are not only not quite what they appear to be, but also that their actual motives are somewhat sinister, or at least not conventionally altruistic.James Maliszewskihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00341941102398271464noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-43730638817885258642010-11-01T17:34:01.828-04:002010-11-01T17:34:01.828-04:00One of my favorite lines ever comes from this stor...One of my favorite lines ever comes from this story (semi-spoiler):<br /><br />"Girls are for dessert, and unfortunaetly, Spiders, too."<br /><br />:)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-52680065628541132602010-11-01T14:49:31.039-04:002010-11-01T14:49:31.039-04:00The current, online version of Dragon still runs B...The current, online version of Dragon still runs Bazaar of the Bizarre articles, albeit for 4th edition.<br /><br />SteveStevehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11677895164302972957noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-10427062032656293062010-11-01T14:04:12.002-04:002010-11-01T14:04:12.002-04:00These stories are absolute classics, and this is t...These stories are absolute classics, and this is truly a gem among them. <br /><br />A little known fact is that Leiber acted in the weird movie "Equinox" as Dr. Waterman (sometimes as Watermann).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-46823287167979686602010-11-01T12:57:27.807-04:002010-11-01T12:57:27.807-04:00. As usual, I feel I have to point out that the co.... As usual, I feel I have to point out that the correct spellings of the names are "Gray" Mouser and "Leiber". <br /><br />The books are available from Dark Horse, though the quality of these volumes is low. White Wolf put out a four (not three) volume hardcover edition, as well as 4 trade paperbacks which can still be had on amazon or eBay for relatively cheap.metamorphosissigmahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18163514061779555557noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-64360301856579485922010-11-01T12:22:38.437-04:002010-11-01T12:22:38.437-04:00The stories are in print via the Fantasy Masterwor...The stories are in print via the Fantasy Masterworks range, which may be UK only. I can't seem to find them on amazon.com anyway.thekelvingreenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01928260185408072124noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-56763596008269348882010-11-01T12:16:53.078-04:002010-11-01T12:16:53.078-04:00I think one of the reasons more people don't r...I think one of the reasons more people don't read him is the lack of availability. When I first heard of him (which was sometime before 4e came out. I'm a youngin.), it was difficult to find him in print.<br /><br />Even today, I've never seen the Dark Horse editions in a book store, and the price for them is rather high for the page count. Still, it is Leiber, and I'll take what I can get.Mirandahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10745062840676790649noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-52822384258069241752010-11-01T11:36:33.516-04:002010-11-01T11:36:33.516-04:00Even with a gigantic queue of classic sword & ...Even with a gigantic queue of classic sword & sorcery stories that I still need to read, I still find time to re-read the stories of Fafhrd & the Gray Mouser on a regular basis. When I read about Lankhmar I feel like I am coming home.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17635116929490398699noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-46307023895695513452010-11-01T11:24:46.160-04:002010-11-01T11:24:46.160-04:00If it's a pity that Leiber isn't more wide...If it's a pity that Leiber isn't more widely read, you should take some solace from the fact that I never would have picked him up without stumbling across your blog a while back. I'm now loaning the books out to friends as fast as I can finish them.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02079720359818939009noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-53163723887070723412010-11-01T11:20:56.460-04:002010-11-01T11:20:56.460-04:00I only got to read Lieber recently, but it's v...I only got to read Lieber recently, but it's very, very D&D.<br /><br />At one point Fafhrd is under a curse, where any girl he kisses will turn into a pig (for a little while). The Grey Mouser, of course, tries to work out a way to profit from this. <br /><br />If that's not Player Character behavior, I don't know what is.Jarrahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16367493507081661713noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-16297623133378710512010-11-01T10:52:18.612-04:002010-11-01T10:52:18.612-04:00"Gamers of a certain vintage..."
I be..."Gamers of a certain vintage..." <br /><br />I believe the Paizo version of Dragon included Bazaar of the Bizarre articles, though I could be mistaken.Mirandahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10745062840676790649noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-78818863737228085542010-11-01T10:45:56.000-04:002010-11-01T10:45:56.000-04:00I think this also had an effect on Tekumel, as the...I think this also had an effect on Tekumel, as the company of Gijj, based in the city of Dlash in Livyanu (I think) is basically a large inter-planar trading business, where many things may be had for the right price, and usually that's not money.Markhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04409904855518312412noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-18191642506398852572010-11-01T10:22:05.662-04:002010-11-01T10:22:05.662-04:00Oddly enough, White Wolf put out a three-volume se...Oddly enough, White Wolf put out a three-volume set of the Fafhrd and Mouser stories a few years ago.<br /><br />Those are the volumes I have. I first encountered the stories by picking up an issue of Marvel's 1990's Lankhmar comic on a whim in a Half Price Books, just because it had Mike Mignola art.<br /><br />I found myself entranced by the setting, and the characters and -- finding further issues of the comic too difficult or expensive to acquire -- I went back to the original stories via the White Wolf collections.<br /><br />I think they may be my favourite fantasy books, as Leiber's writing is a joy to read, never slacking, always imaginative, and often funny.<br /><br />Dark Horse put out a collection of the Marvel series a couple of years ago, so I was finally able to catch up. I'd recommend the adaptations, by the way, as they're quite true to the original stories, and Mignola does a great job of bringing the characters and setting to life. It's no accident, I'm sure, that White Wolf brought him in to do the covers and chapter headings for their printings of the original stories.thekelvingreenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01928260185408072124noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-7652690085060798222010-11-01T10:18:34.656-04:002010-11-01T10:18:34.656-04:00@ Jeff
Agreed.
The world they exist in is ripe f...@ Jeff<br /><br />Agreed.<br /><br />The world they exist in is ripe for adventure as well, and Lankhmar is the be-all end-all of fantasy cities.Mirandahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10745062840676790649noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-83478417156688907792010-11-01T10:17:23.437-04:002010-11-01T10:17:23.437-04:00I love Lieber! It's my second favourite author...I love Lieber! It's my second favourite author (after Howard.) To day, my AD&D Lankhmar campaign has been one of the most successful I ever had.Antoniohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17258180992723371727noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-36714983335582691592010-11-01T10:15:57.447-04:002010-11-01T10:15:57.447-04:00Fafhrd and the Grey Mouser are the epitome of adve...Fafhrd and the Grey Mouser are the epitome of adventure, exploration and the raucous lifestyle that goes along with it all.<br /><br />They were, and still are my favorite fantasy heroes, by far.mntnjeffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09376768960933570936noreply@blogger.com