tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post3577152182039314307..comments2024-03-18T20:22:06.331-04:00Comments on GROGNARDIA: Open Friday: AD&D ReprintsJames Maliszewskihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00341941102398271464noreply@blogger.comBlogger97125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-29406885082064882722012-08-26T00:03:33.646-04:002012-08-26T00:03:33.646-04:00I still have all of my old 1st and 2nd books, plus...I still have all of my old 1st and 2nd books, plus the few basic D&D items I started with. I'm hammering together a set of house rules that cherry picks the best parts of each.Pistol Petenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-34623013382497414342012-02-02T17:55:21.201-05:002012-02-02T17:55:21.201-05:00Super late in the game, but I'll likely only b...Super late in the game, but I'll likely only be picking up the DMG and using it to inform my game rather than wholesale adopting the AD&D ruleset—I'm rather fond of LotFP's pared-down rules.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01066409334411354268noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-82719566045050319942012-01-30T11:08:04.577-05:002012-01-30T11:08:04.577-05:00Highly unlikely.
I own the original hardbacks, si...Highly unlikely.<br /><br />I own the original hardbacks, signed by EGG, so I don't need the reprints. And yet, I don't think I can ever again in my life play a game that is that complex. <br />Swords & Wizardry Core works for me extremely well.<br /><br />But:<br /><br />I'd buy (and use) a hardcover collection of all 1st edition and BECMI adventure modules. My collection is still missing a lot of those.Greyhawk Knighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06730467399899194610noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-64768038328902913822012-01-30T04:28:28.427-05:002012-01-30T04:28:28.427-05:00I'd like to, but... I just started with the Pa...I'd like to, but... I just started with the Pathfinder beginner box, giving it a whirl on saturday night, and everyone enjoyed the session (the production values are really high, by the way, and combat flows quite quickly). I'll be running a campaign using this before making any decisions about switching rule sets for another campaign.Pete Kinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03438651595079082035noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-82924919353480798282012-01-29T12:11:44.685-05:002012-01-29T12:11:44.685-05:00The only bone I have to pick is with people who th...The only bone I have to pick is with people who think it is some amazingly revolutionary thing when a company republishes material that is already easily available and that they do it in a manner that is both much more expensive and/or implies that the item is rare and collectable. <br /><br />And this is not an issue about the book remaining in print, many classics remain in affordable print editions.<br /><br />I have several new copies of all three original books, all bought of eBay and Boardgame Geek, with no "quality" issues.<br /><br />Your credibility dropped away when you resorted to insults over spending ability and lower item standards in each post.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-33592014710076886912012-01-29T08:34:27.079-05:002012-01-29T08:34:27.079-05:00@wart: Stop.. you say "which I'm sure is ...@wart: Stop.. you say "which I'm sure is a fine game," suggesting you likely haven't actually looked at it closely (and I'm sure don't know its history) and then go on to bash it at length. The real disconnect is that the creators would also recommend people use actual AD&D, so they created a clone to enable publishing of AD&D-ish products under a common, recognizable platform. They wanted to keep AD&D alive at a time when WotC was crapping all over it and pushing the 4E boardgame on people. <br /><br />It's too bad you can't appreciate this contribution to the community.Chainsawhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13795026553408942707noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-7027714215303682712012-01-29T08:17:32.485-05:002012-01-29T08:17:32.485-05:00Eh, well, I guess our experiences or requried book...Eh, well, I guess our experiences or requried book quality or willingness to wait is different. Just admit your statement was too strong and move on. You've obviously got a bone to pick, so your credibility isn't that great anyway.Chainsawhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13795026553408942707noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-29246640343403666022012-01-28T20:12:01.080-05:002012-01-28T20:12:01.080-05:00If you examine average close prices on eBay these ...If you examine average close prices on eBay these books all go for around 10 dollars and you can often combine shipping as the books are listed by the same seller.<br /><br />I buy tons of RPG books on eBAY and have never had one that was not exactly as described.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-19507612098779879492012-01-28T19:10:47.044-05:002012-01-28T19:10:47.044-05:00That makes sense, dhowarth; thanks for clarifying!...That makes sense, dhowarth; thanks for clarifying!thekelvingreenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01928260185408072124noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-84622206803182084852012-01-28T17:13:39.539-05:002012-01-28T17:13:39.539-05:00@Chainsaw - Yeah, I hate OSRIC. Which is why I sai...@Chainsaw - Yeah, I hate OSRIC. Which is why I said I was sure it was a fine game.. like just above, see? What I said is that OSRIC isn't for me, and AD&D is.<br /><br />@zerohero - Yes, that's what I meant. If "dwarves" is good enough for Tolkien and Gygax, it's good enough for me. But I was being tongue-in-cheek.metamorphosissigmahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18163514061779555557noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-51067573605605767812012-01-28T13:48:09.601-05:002012-01-28T13:48:09.601-05:00Agreed, Chainsaw.Agreed, Chainsaw.Chris#6https://www.blogger.com/profile/08305925037284931371noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-67628094200626309042012-01-28T13:45:37.182-05:002012-01-28T13:45:37.182-05:00Absolutely! Just not right after I get my hands o...Absolutely! Just not right after I get my hands on them. I'll still be eyeball-deep in Labyrinth Lord gaming, for which I commonly steal AD&D stuff.trollsmythhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01895349218958093151noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-39438923686128428652012-01-28T13:42:40.158-05:002012-01-28T13:42:40.158-05:00'Plus, they misspell the plural of dwarf throu...'Plus, they misspell the plural of dwarf throughout OSRIC'<br /><br />I think you meant that they didn't use the Tolkien misspelling of dwarfs in OSRIC. They just stuck to the correct spelling of the word.deletedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14629023989035899992noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-37261237803619321392012-01-28T12:35:51.838-05:002012-01-28T12:35:51.838-05:00Well, I definitely feel like the odd man out. I al...Well, I definitely feel like the odd man out. I already run a weekly hybrid OSRIC/AD&D game with many elements from Unearthed Arcana AND I plan on buying the re-issued books.<br /><br />I can understand personal preference when it comes to systems or styles, but I can't understand the hate. I personally don't like BFRPG or the tone of some people on the Dragonsfoot forums, but I don't hate them. Isn't the internet big enough for people to just ignore things or people they don't like?<br /><br />I mean, it isn't like D&D is going to die because WOTC or Goblinoid Games or Gary from Indiana does or doesn't do something you don't think is kosher for the game.p1r8z0rhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02232264043854801391noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-36394682248305839642012-01-28T12:13:51.852-05:002012-01-28T12:13:51.852-05:00No, thanks.
No hate nor love here for either WOTC...No, thanks. <br />No hate nor love here for either WOTC or Gygaxian prose I'm just fine with OSRIC or L&L/AEC should I need an AD&D fix. <br />I do not particualrly care for the originals.<br />Fact is that most of the times I'm playing a tweaked simulacrum for "D&D".artikidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17474295473142339717noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-23809460542512106112012-01-28T12:07:21.943-05:002012-01-28T12:07:21.943-05:00I had to laugh at this. Not so much the AD&D ...I had to laugh at this. Not so much the AD&D books I have, but I'm thinking of the scent of the Traveller Little Black Books (of which I have three sets, all told). Knowing what's been spilled on them over the years (and hastily wiped up), my most frequently used set likely smells of cheap scotch, beer, pizza, and coffee. :)<br /><br />Still senses of all kinds mean something, and can definitely trigger memories, so your point is valid.Desert Rathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14837747666646894084noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-56191412906759997982012-01-28T11:54:24.166-05:002012-01-28T11:54:24.166-05:00Oh, and yeah, I'm buying a copy and continuing...Oh, and yeah, I'm buying a copy and continuing to run my regular AD&D game.Chainsawhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13795026553408942707noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-12254172820677066492012-01-28T11:52:31.118-05:002012-01-28T11:52:31.118-05:00Wow, the OSRIC hate is strong with this one.. did ...Wow, the OSRIC hate is strong with this one.. did OSRIC steal your lunch money or something?Chainsawhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13795026553408942707noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-81119153413019231352012-01-28T11:48:42.283-05:002012-01-28T11:48:42.283-05:00You mean to tell me they are reprinting these book...You mean to tell me they are reprinting these books to make some money? The horror! You should definitely go to the police with this information, maybe even call Homeland Security.Chainsawhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13795026553408942707noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-20549403395364428992012-01-28T11:47:07.047-05:002012-01-28T11:47:07.047-05:00Heaven forbid if you're not dirt poor and want...Heaven forbid if you're not dirt poor and want to buy a new copy rather than hope the used eBay version you get doesn't have missing pages, drawings, smell like cat piss or smoke, etc. Also, I have spent a lot of time looking for copies on eBay. A good copy is less than the new one, but it's not "dirt cheap."<br /><br />PS Pretty sure nobody gives a crap about the "new cover" - that is not the appeal (in fact most people are nervous it's going to suck).Chainsawhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13795026553408942707noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-76996688901231091972012-01-28T11:44:53.157-05:002012-01-28T11:44:53.157-05:00Donate money to the fund if that is important to y...Donate money to the fund if that is important to you but do so directly.<br /><br />This is a money grab by WotC to pay bills between editions and nothing more.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-64034730957720391402012-01-28T11:39:19.440-05:002012-01-28T11:39:19.440-05:00What I have a problem with is that all of the orig...What I have a problem with is that all of the original hardcover books are dirt cheap on eBay. You can buy the whole set for less than the price of a single reprint. <br /><br />Is some new cover art really what this hobby has come too? Isn't collectible alternate covers one of the things that helped wipe out comics in the 90s?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-19582014808808173302012-01-28T10:06:57.891-05:002012-01-28T10:06:57.891-05:00@Kelvin-- I don't get it either. I started pl...@Kelvin-- I don't get it either. I started playing in 1981 so I understand the nostalgia. But the game should be about what's going on between the DM and the players not the DM and his books.Brian (brian_cooper at hotmail d o t com)https://www.blogger.com/profile/02805168206752602148noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-51735981574733166282012-01-28T08:24:15.294-05:002012-01-28T08:24:15.294-05:00@Kelvin - It's probably been pointed out befor...@Kelvin - It's probably been pointed out before, and those who didn't buy the original AD&D hardbacks when they were still on the shelves probably can't fully appreciate it, but the part the cover art, interior illustrations, and EGG's unique phraseology (High Gygaxian prose) play in the nostalgia of the game can't be overstated. It was THE game for many back in '78 - '80-something, and even a close simulacrum like OSRIC, which I'm sure is a fine game, simply can't evoke the same magic for me/us. It's like ricecream, tofurkey, electronic cigarettes, or the "updated" Star Wars original trilogy on Blu-Ray... It does the job, but no matter how much you try to make yourself believe it's the same thing, or just as good, it ain't. AD&D is a satisfying feast of quirks, flavor, and rules lacunae--OSRIC is a sanitized, clinical faded photocopy. Plus, they misspell the plural of dwarf throughout OSRIC, and I just can't abide that ;-).metamorphosissigmahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18163514061779555557noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-44443656357514086482012-01-28T07:52:59.961-05:002012-01-28T07:52:59.961-05:00To be clear, I'm not judging anyone, I just fi...To be clear, I'm not judging anyone, I just find it an interesting phenomenon and I'd like to understand it better.thekelvingreenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01928260185408072124noreply@blogger.com