tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post4048144060817164135..comments2024-03-29T00:32:33.920-04:00Comments on GROGNARDIA: The Late UnpleasantnessJames Maliszewskihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00341941102398271464noreply@blogger.comBlogger41125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-19902868808650635402010-03-22T12:19:49.596-04:002010-03-22T12:19:49.596-04:00why didn't anyone tell me before?
do you mean...why didn't anyone tell me before?<br /><br />do you mean that the same generous souls who help me perpetuate my other adolescent delusions into middle-age also want to help out with this one?<br /><br />these girls just give and give and give. and they love it, too!<br /><br />I've held my tongue before, James, but this just goes to show, there needs to be more skin on grognardia.Brian (brian_cooper at hotmail d o t com)https://www.blogger.com/profile/02805168206752602148noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-49008904334048056152010-03-22T09:29:17.741-04:002010-03-22T09:29:17.741-04:00There was no Rancor because we didn't want to ...There was no Rancor because we didn't want to get sued by Lucas and then forced as punishment to watch the Christmas Special over and over and over.<br /><br />To be fair, one of my characters was named "Lumpy" so maybe the Spirit Of Christmas, which as Cartman Skywalker taught us is "rancor", was already in the room.Adam Thorntonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06368676086759298705noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-83631408316329060742010-03-22T09:17:26.676-04:002010-03-22T09:17:26.676-04:00@Zak:
Is that the porn star Rainbow Kittens?@Zak:<br /><br />Is that the porn star Rainbow Kittens?anarchisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05546197561922726279noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-27666131560949495502010-03-22T08:58:54.518-04:002010-03-22T08:58:54.518-04:00Is it bad that, as soon as I read about "temp...Is it bad that, as soon as I read about "tempests in teapots", I immediately think of Gong and Steve Hillage?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-13824581017875720642010-03-22T08:39:26.485-04:002010-03-22T08:39:26.485-04:00If not a complaint, James, how about a round of ap...If not a complaint, James, how about a round of applause?<br /><br />I was thinking of Grognardia today, actually. Though I have been gaming for 30 years--starting with the 77 Holmes boxed set--I fell in with those deviant and weird <i>RuneQuest</i> players soon after and abandoned D&D. I've played hundreds of games and worked in the retail end of the industry (the Compleat Strategist) back in college, but while I have kept up on D&D over the years it never held much interest for me. That began to change with the OSR. First <i>Labyrinth Lord</i> and later <i>Swords & Wizardry</i> caught my attention, and then, your superb blog. My interest piqued, I have been running S&W White Box for some time and having a blast. Today I actually grabbed a thick, plain white cardboard box that a photo album came in, printed a <i>Swords & Wizardry</i> cover for it on photograph paper, and pasted it on the lid. Then I printed out the S&W White Box rules in pamphlet size, along with a few other goodies like Matt Finch's Old School gaming primer, tossed in some dice, and voila! A White Box all my own.<br /><br />It was, largely, this blog that awoke my awareness of the virtues of Old School gaming...namely the "do-it-yourself" spirit that extends these days to even how you print out and package your own game.<br /><br />Let 'em complain James. That's how you know you are doing some good.<br /><br />(word verification "slingore," Lord Kilgore's younger brother?)Andrew Logan Montgomeryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16862829026060203177noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-20482294406795798042010-03-22T04:28:09.381-04:002010-03-22T04:28:09.381-04:00Hm, isn't one of the main arguments of the OSR...Hm, isn't one of the main arguments of the OSR that D&D took a wrong turn with the kiddie marketing?<br /><br />Otherwise, have fun applying retroactive bikinis to the succubus, Eldritch Wizardry cover girl, etc.<br /><br />The video is actually pretty mild for something that proclaims "porn actresses and a stripper" on its splash page.Roger G-Shttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08594440701279968693noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-56552153931690028792010-03-22T03:51:44.104-04:002010-03-22T03:51:44.104-04:00"It's D&D. With Strippers and Porn St..."It's D&D. With Strippers and Porn Stars."<br /><br />Not sure what the big deal is. It's pretty tame compared to my junior high school back in the day.sjanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05722064514085502251noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-46259956418572688592010-03-22T01:11:35.627-04:002010-03-22T01:11:35.627-04:00That sounds cool but why wasn't there a Rancor...That sounds cool but why wasn't there a Rancor?Zak Sabbathhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08812410680077034917noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-26074865526302257032010-03-22T00:40:28.825-04:002010-03-22T00:40:28.825-04:00The amazing thing is that all this is going down d...The amazing thing is that all this is going down during GaryCon. And let me tell you about GaryCon.<br /><br />I had a magnificent time. I mean, I know all about the rancor of the OSR infighting and pissing and moaning, and I know all about the Edition Wars, and, hell, I know the history of TSR and that there's a lot of not-sweetness-and-light.<br /><br />But you know what? I played something like 28 hours of RPGs over the weekend, with probably 50 different people running and playing with me. And:<br /><br /><i><b>NOT ONE OF THEM WAS A DOUCHE</b></i><br /><br />No, really. I even had a longish talk with someone much newer-school than me, from Chicago, whose name I've forgotten, about why I preferred rulings-not-rules rules-light games, and about plot-driven versus sandbox style, and improvisation, and all that stuff which drives people on the Net into frothing rages....<br /><br />And there was no rancor. I had some good discussions and I had some <i>GREAT</i> games.<br /><br />I played OD&D, AD&D v1, AD&Dv2, Astonishing Swords and Sorcery, Rules-Cyclopedia-mostly-Mentzer-Basic, Metamorphosis Alpha (well, I didn't play that very long, but it was my own fault: Jim Ward doesn't kill you, he just doesn't get in the way of your killing yourself), and the Goodman Games d20-derived game-in-playtest. I had a terrific time in <i>each and every one of those</i>. And the thing was, everyone else I saw was having an equally good time. Well, except for Jim Ward when Ernie Gygax and Tom Wham were picking on him in <i>Dragon Lairds</i>. And they <i>were</i> being mean to him. But I digress.<br /><br />The thing is, I came away with my faith in old-school gaming--though maybe not "The OSR" whatever that is--completely restored. I haven't felt as much like a kid on Christmas morning in a very, very long time. And, I repeat again, of all the different people I played with, none of whom I'd ever sat at a table with before to the best of my knowledge,<br /><br /><i><b>NOT ONE OF THEM WAS A DOUCHE</b></i>Adam Thorntonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06368676086759298705noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-44401307649953303902010-03-22T00:18:46.568-04:002010-03-22T00:18:46.568-04:00James: "Maliszewski proposes tightening level...James: "Maliszewski proposes tightening level limits on demi-humans."<br /><br />I really did choke a bit on reading that.<br /><br />Major thumbs-up to Zak for making things interesting.Deltahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00705402326320853684noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-2821326840362770362010-03-22T00:17:40.908-04:002010-03-22T00:17:40.908-04:00So, could someone give me a link?
Apparently I su...So, could someone give me a link?<br /><br />Apparently I suck at finding drama.Vigilancehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12302020918798504358noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-75519234134685280892010-03-21T22:44:11.259-04:002010-03-21T22:44:11.259-04:00What are bridges for, but to burn?
Although, it wo...What are bridges for, but to burn?<br />Although, it would be easier if I could swim.<br /><br />I actually have a proposition for Zak to make this all into a positive situation in the long run.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-92037595933242881952010-03-21T22:06:38.566-04:002010-03-21T22:06:38.566-04:00"When the tao is lost, men turn to talk of go..."When the tao is lost, men turn to talk of good and evil."Whttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12215651059418273961noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-46011391245364726712010-03-21T21:57:55.296-04:002010-03-21T21:57:55.296-04:00Heh.... I love all you crazy bastards.Heh.... I love all you crazy bastards.E.G.Palmerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10229893317543621720noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-74507823228383185872010-03-21T21:17:20.815-04:002010-03-21T21:17:20.815-04:00If you average the porn stars with the nerds, it t...If you average the porn stars with the nerds, it turns out that the average role-player has had sex about as often as the general population.anarchisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05546197561922726279noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-38599169339715382862010-03-21T21:04:11.196-04:002010-03-21T21:04:11.196-04:00Hmmm...just took a look at playing D&D with po...Hmmm...just took a look at playing D&D with porn stars, and all I see in the latest post are tired old hats like "...OK, lets look at what monsters start with the letter F today." Hardly contoversial stuff. in jokes aside, could somebody point out the location of the latest drama?Kevin Machttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14122665488285424578noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-78601457774103777332010-03-21T21:00:29.114-04:002010-03-21T21:00:29.114-04:00Well, if anyone should be blamed it's WOTC. Af...Well, if anyone should be blamed it's WOTC. Afterall, if your going to interview people who play your games and openly work in the sex industry, chances are more then one person is going to be a little upset.crowkinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03066821931343968827noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-69637225570276041472010-03-21T19:56:57.764-04:002010-03-21T19:56:57.764-04:00Every once in a while I get all depressed about th...Every once in a while I get all depressed about the inevitable slide of any group into demented politico-moralistic argy-bargy, backstabbery and bullshittery. But then I realize that I don't actually have to have anything to do with those particular people, and I cheer right up again.<br /><br />It does mean, however, that I almost never join any kind of capital-G Group.Peter Fitzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17675284304482852740noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-227352369696813322010-03-21T18:43:20.704-04:002010-03-21T18:43:20.704-04:00I thought then, and still think it odd, that there...<i> I thought then, and still think it odd, that there was a special word for the act.</i><br /><br />"Urticate" is an even funnier example of this trend.Scallop Skulled Skaldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09614954870582728737noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-16664157630009389722010-03-21T18:15:49.029-04:002010-03-21T18:15:49.029-04:00Oh, wben I said sex scandal I was being facetious....Oh, wben I said sex scandal I was being facetious. Didn't realize, hahaha<br /><br />This is only now starting to ruffle feathers? Wow. Figured if it would have happened, it would have happened sooner. SillyWheggihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08514479185531072412noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-64509966481502318372010-03-21T17:59:11.412-04:002010-03-21T17:59:11.412-04:00Oh. Sorry 'bout that.
I thought something wen...Oh. Sorry 'bout that.<br />I thought something went down at Gary Con.Timothy S. Brannanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02923526503305233715noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-31582301655612393122010-03-21T17:53:52.494-04:002010-03-21T17:53:52.494-04:00Fair enough.Fair enough.TyBannermanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13241483332119936529noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-87850124190017416342010-03-21T17:37:07.333-04:002010-03-21T17:37:07.333-04:00The OSR needs to have a bit of argy-bargy to keep ...The OSR needs to have a bit of argy-bargy to keep it from getting decrepit and complacent. I think the community is sufficiently resilient to keep from going into full schism-mode. <br /><br />Things haven't been so much fun round here since the Mckinney heresy.Tom Fitzgeraldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14893168729760333884noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-30492914203482487752010-03-21T17:36:41.524-04:002010-03-21T17:36:41.524-04:00@Fitz: Not trying to antagonize you, but the TARGA...@Fitz: Not trying to antagonize you, but the TARGA website is asking for commentary, presumably about the kids/parents/D&D/porn issue. It's better to place your discussion there, as TARGA is requesting it.scottszhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10327316054801308727noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-39357297369801052772010-03-21T17:31:03.715-04:002010-03-21T17:31:03.715-04:00@Fitz
Thanks, but please stop. You'll just go...@Fitz<br /><br />Thanks, but please stop. You'll just goad someone reading into trying to defend their position and then they'll say something that crosses the line and then someone will respond with something that crosses the line and it'll all just start over again.<br /><br />Just let it die. If someone's got a problem with me, they can take it up with me.Zak Sabbathhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08812410680077034917noreply@blogger.com