tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post5857940330017301932..comments2024-03-28T09:41:39.187-04:00Comments on GROGNARDIA: Retrospective: The Adventures of Indiana Jones Role-Playing GameJames Maliszewskihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00341941102398271464noreply@blogger.comBlogger20125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-22210433676294071832020-11-21T05:03:10.386-05:002020-11-21T05:03:10.386-05:00The Judges Survival Pack is essential to turning I...The Judges Survival Pack is essential to turning IJRPG into a genuine RPG with brief, but well done character creation rules. A case of too little too late I suppose. I still have a fondness for this game despite how maligned it is.Thomas Denmarkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06135075012362548876noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-12226334343275492942020-11-19T13:41:31.025-05:002020-11-19T13:41:31.025-05:00That sounds familiar. It was around 1983.That sounds familiar. It was around 1983.Kevin Machttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14122665488285424578noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-29854385161918655492020-11-19T03:57:18.887-05:002020-11-19T03:57:18.887-05:00I do wish this is something that Marvel had learne...I do wish this is something that Marvel had learned. They were very unhappy that TSR included rules for creating your own superheroes in their system, rather than just providing the ones Marvel had provided.<br /><br />So their next two attempts at an RPG did not contain any method of generating a character (explicitly stated in the case of the MSHRP licence).Reverance Pavanehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01217657347160811310noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-86808566294302223002020-11-19T00:38:29.706-05:002020-11-19T00:38:29.706-05:00My friends and I played IJ a lot. We actually use...My friends and I played IJ a lot. We actually used the rules to run a setting set in a show called Tales of the Gold Monkey set in around the same time period. We didn’t care that there were no character creation rules; the system was dead simple to comprehend and we had no problems creating our own characters. We were around 12 at the time, so we really never cared about things like rules. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01927005170655270741noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-30491475119034378222020-11-18T17:30:44.478-05:002020-11-18T17:30:44.478-05:00My friend and neighbour had a copy of IJ RPG when ...My friend and neighbour had a copy of IJ RPG when we were 13, but I don't remember playing it, unfortunately. Maybe he still owns it. Nicolas Dessauxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03010015806129652185noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-28563141403048487762020-11-18T16:32:48.974-05:002020-11-18T16:32:48.974-05:00That's interesting. I never saw it myself, so ...That's interesting. I never saw it myself, so I'm glad to hear that this issue was eventually addressed.James Maliszewskihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00341941102398271464noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-63358182249816387862020-11-18T16:30:12.207-05:002020-11-18T16:30:12.207-05:00There was an expansion that added the rules called...There was an expansion that added the rules called the Judges Survival Pack that had rules to create your own player characters. I always meant to give it a try but never got around to it after purchasing them.tegeushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17677601695669903863noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-45493850783035846092020-11-18T16:10:50.462-05:002020-11-18T16:10:50.462-05:00By FGU?By FGU?James Maliszewskihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00341941102398271464noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-33349804811342609142020-11-18T16:06:25.598-05:002020-11-18T16:06:25.598-05:00I think a pulp rpg a girlfriend gifted me as a tee...I think a pulp rpg a girlfriend gifted me as a teen was called “Daredevils.”Kevin Machttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14122665488285424578noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-78358962089460360422020-11-18T13:44:58.173-05:002020-11-18T13:44:58.173-05:00I had no idea that existed. that sounds awesome! I had no idea that existed. that sounds awesome! Rickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09872338936249305301noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-3401715292895429932020-11-18T13:31:44.923-05:002020-11-18T13:31:44.923-05:00My CoC games were similar actually. I played a lot...My CoC games were similar actually. I played a lot of <i>Gangbusters</i> back in the day, so there was a bit of overlap between the two in terms of locations and scenarios. James Maliszewskihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00341941102398271464noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-83210852200775471472020-11-18T13:26:55.121-05:002020-11-18T13:26:55.121-05:00Steve Jackson once said “all board games are role ...Steve Jackson once said “all board games are role playing games,” and I take that approach. Btw Betrayal at House is next on my list to get, but been obsessing on Dead of Winter lately. <br /><br />I can see kids trying to get a game of Indy Jones going, but it fizzles because everybody wants to play Indy. <br /><br />There were great pulp rpgs around back in the day, but I had so many pulp elements in my Cthulhu campaigns (cue groans from purists) that the itch got scratched. My sessions seemed to take place more in speakeasys and nightclubs than basements and woods.Kevin Machttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14122665488285424578noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-22351658257934622712020-11-18T12:33:12.455-05:002020-11-18T12:33:12.455-05:00I have played Betrayal at House on the Hill and ra...I have played <i>Betrayal at House on the Hill</i> and rather enjoyed it. Right before the world blew up, my wife and daughter bought me a <i>D&D</i>-flavored version of it, set in the Forgotten Realms and I've never had the chance to play it. Might be a while before I get the opportunity to see if it's any good.James Maliszewskihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00341941102398271464noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-7785780712105647652020-11-18T12:28:01.943-05:002020-11-18T12:28:01.943-05:00This recent "Boardgame Explosion" has re...This recent "Boardgame Explosion" has really push boundaries. No complaints, but man, there are a lot of games these days that I steal from, not just ideas, but PROPS. <br /><br />Ever tried Betrayal at house on the hill? kinda roleplayey. Arkham Horror is just CoC with no GM. And all those WOTC D&D boardgames. kind of a tier between Dungeons and dragons and Monopoly ;)<br /><br />game wise, good time to be alive.Rickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09872338936249305301noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-928145317480001522020-11-18T12:17:03.187-05:002020-11-18T12:17:03.187-05:00Somewhat. The rules do tend to make use of measure...Somewhat. The rules do tend to make use of measurements that are tied to the included play maps rather than emphasizing "real world" ones. That certainly gives certain elements a boardgame-y feel compared to, say, <i>D&D</i> or even <i>Gangbusters</i>.James Maliszewskihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00341941102398271464noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-69230873443720462952020-11-18T12:09:20.252-05:002020-11-18T12:09:20.252-05:00This design kind of makes it more like a board gam...This design kind of makes it more like a board game, than a complete RPG, right?Rickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09872338936249305301noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-6108679848096008202020-11-18T11:57:07.010-05:002020-11-18T11:57:07.010-05:00Clearly. Whatever missteps WEG made later on, they...Clearly. Whatever missteps WEG made later on, they at least understood immediately that what people wanted out of a <i>Star Wars</i> RPG was the ability to play <i>in</i> the same world as Luke Skywalker and Han Solo, not to <i>play</i> Luke Skywalker or Han Solo.James Maliszewskihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00341941102398271464noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-8957980200017481242020-11-18T11:53:08.147-05:002020-11-18T11:53:08.147-05:00Considering the success of WEG Star Wars, it's...Considering the success of WEG Star Wars, it's tempting to chalk that up to "lesson learned". pixledrivenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02015997444412977693noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-7984552406732107592020-11-18T05:58:19.174-05:002020-11-18T05:58:19.174-05:00I suspected that might be the reason, but it's...I suspected that might be the reason, but it's very odd, since, just a few years later, the <i>Star Wars</i> RPG published by West End had no such restrictions.James Maliszewskihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00341941102398271464noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-49199479043634835932020-11-18T05:54:10.218-05:002020-11-18T05:54:10.218-05:00According to David Cook it was not a design choice...According to David Cook it was not a design choice, but rather a limitation imposed on them by Lucasfilm licensing. Grogtalk interviewed him and he revealed it around the 3 hour 37 minute mark here: https://youtu.be/Sem4sPyqNDw<br /><br />That said, and playing devil’s advocate, without Indy, you aren’t really playing Indiana Jones, but just a pulp adventure game, so wouldn’t need the hassle of a license anyhow. Nameless Jedihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16919938855936773398noreply@blogger.com