tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post6796875170968179968..comments2024-03-19T04:29:47.922-04:00Comments on GROGNARDIA: D&D 0.75James Maliszewskihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00341941102398271464noreply@blogger.comBlogger62125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-73201769984066446072021-01-19T07:57:01.031-05:002021-01-19T07:57:01.031-05:00I stopped giving bonus xp for high ability scores....I stopped giving bonus xp for high ability scores.Timothy C. Schenkshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11770741345144496175noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-15587178496860075172012-10-20T22:55:24.025-04:002012-10-20T22:55:24.025-04:00I'm not big on numbering rules sets. But, I gu...I'm not big on numbering rules sets. But, I guess I do see the point when rules are dramatically changed, but the game name stays the same. Equally, even though D&D 3 got the D&D 3.5 after some rules changes, personally I didn't think it warranted a .5 add-on, but WotC had a different problem than most other rpg companies don't have, a giant customer base.<br /><br />I only play C&C now, as it is the closest that I want in a rules system. They have dramatically improved on their presentation and through various printings have added things that needed work, clarified things that needed clarifying or altered things that needed altering. Editing is no worse than any other rpg out there, as each printing learned from the previous printings and were fixed. I have the 4th printings and could never figure out why TLG had such a bad rep. Looking at the earlier stuff I could see why. I think it is unfair to judge what they are doing now as opposed to years ago. They've learned a lot since then.<br /><br />So, 5 printings of the PH now, some altered rules since 1st printing but never was C&C added the edition numbering.Adam Warlocknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-35591693030627718932012-10-19T10:21:34.989-04:002012-10-19T10:21:34.989-04:00When in my teens, I used to play a lot AD&D. I...When in my teens, I used to play a lot AD&D. I've still got very vivid memories of the adventures we had, whereas - though I played a lot of video games since - I did never encounter anything even remotely resembling tabletop RPGs. What's more, the worst games - the most boring ones - are IMHO these calling themselves "role-playing"... Playing the role of a lump of pixels? Oh, come on! You just can't beat the power of imagination...mikolaj kamlernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-81679883436827935702009-07-12T11:33:53.073-04:002009-07-12T11:33:53.073-04:00I thought S&W was doing the original three boo...I thought S&W was doing the original three books plus best of the supplements thing.<br /><br />In general, though, my experience is that when you get two or more people working together on a “best of” system, you quickly find out that—when it comes to the details—everyone has very different ideas about what the “best” is. Striving to stay as true as possible to a well-defined specific edition is much, much easier to do.Roberthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16733274876782876659noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-44228853606103443262009-07-12T03:12:45.775-04:002009-07-12T03:12:45.775-04:00Late to the party, but -- the idea of D&D 0.75...Late to the party, but -- the idea of D&D 0.75 is enormously compelling (as can be seen by the post count here). Like many, I think of "3 booklets plus the good parts of Greyhawk" when I hear that. <br /><br />I continue to be surprised that none of the retro-clones have attempted that. Instead, they're all stuck on replicating either the 3 booklets, Moldvay, or AD&D, each with odd core mechanics changes, none of which have scratched my itch.Deltahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00705402326320853684noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-13580751196643773202009-07-10T13:02:23.549-04:002009-07-10T13:02:23.549-04:00I see SIEGE as a complement to the class system. M...I see SIEGE as a complement to the class system. Making things far easier to adjucate than in the the older systems.Joshua Sherrerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17308286154275114804noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-86199192772727573382009-07-10T12:29:59.266-04:002009-07-10T12:29:59.266-04:00I've never understood what it was about C&...<i>I've never understood what it was about C&C that smacked so of 3e to you, James, the only real thing that occurs to me is ascending AC, and to be frank that's entirely cosmetic. Of course a more thorough explanation might help me to understand but I'm not going to demand one.</i><br /><br>It's the SIEGE Engine primarily, which tends to weaken the class system by making ability scores far more important.James Maliszewskihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00341941102398271464noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-68753849694252852622009-07-09T08:11:35.265-04:002009-07-09T08:11:35.265-04:001e AD&D is my preferred system. However, in p...1e AD&D is my preferred system. However, in play, I've always pared it down a bit so in effect it would be closer to OD&D play wise.Xyanthonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07902260753434100101noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-45152708033231094382009-07-09T04:24:20.500-04:002009-07-09T04:24:20.500-04:00You are not the only one who seeks elegance and at...You are not the only one who seeks elegance and atmosphere in the same package. I got closest when I used the philosophy of cutting, not adding, elements in the rules and campaign setting. I boiled it down to a couple pages of charts. All was taken from AD&D (1.00000). The emphasis shifted from books and paper to dialogue, imaginings and the dice. With less dice rolled, each became more important. It was great.Adelaide Gamerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02052999343460635401noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-89746837519199963092009-07-08T16:34:09.446-04:002009-07-08T16:34:09.446-04:00I am very excited about AEC for exactly this reaso...I am very excited about AEC for exactly this reason. I like the rules-lightness of LL, but for some reason I [b]hate[/b] having races as classes. And I like having more choices for character classes. So LL + AEC might be exactly what I'm looking for.Akivahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17962605092009953080noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-12993035448277055322009-07-08T15:35:31.742-04:002009-07-08T15:35:31.742-04:00I've never understood what it was about C&...I've never understood what it was about C&C that smacked so of 3e to you, James, the only real thing that occurs to me is ascending AC, and to be frank that's entirely cosmetic. Of course a more thorough explanation might help me to understand but I'm not going to demand one.<br /><br />I shy away from this scheme as well, except in the case of 3e vs 3.5. I am fond of telling people when they bring it up "Every time you say x.y, some WOTC executive thinks about revising fourth edition and pops a boner."Rachel Ghoulhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04765944479141792643noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-12853967876864455412009-07-08T04:57:55.256-04:002009-07-08T04:57:55.256-04:00You're definitely not alone. As someone who is...You're definitely not alone. As someone who is dabbling in (or slowly converting to) earlier editions after more-or-less starting with the Fourth Edition, I am relatively torn between my love of much of AD&D except for most of the gritty mechanics. <br /><br />Labyrinth Lord has been my go-to for "Older D&D" recently, after a short affair with Swords & Wizardry. It's right where I personally need the rules to be right now, minimal but not minimalist. There's always that nagging voice in my head whispering in a slow, chaotic drone: OSSSRIIIIC, OSSSSRRRIIIIIIC. I have to agree that the flavor of AD&D is right on, right down to the language of the books themselves.<br /><br />Pity about all those fiddly rules, though. Put me down as excited for Advanced Edition Characters, whether I ultimately use it or not.Matthewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03826454733527778559noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-31280449549200179402009-07-08T00:14:22.683-04:002009-07-08T00:14:22.683-04:00There was actually talk in Dragon during the devel...There was actually talk in <i>Dragon</i> during the development of 2e of having a version number system that would reflect how many of the optional rules you were using.<br /><br />It really bugs me when people don’t realize that the dots in version number scheme for computer software are merely <em>separators</em>, not decimal points. That’s why you can have version 3.0.1. That’s why version 2.9 is followed by version 2.10. But marketing geniuses in the software industry (along with some lazy developers) are the real culprit there. I was so embarrassed when Apple put out “System 7.5”. (I was working there at the time.)<br /><br />Anyway...one of the things I realized when I first discovered Dragonsfoot is that my old AD&D group never really played AD&D. We were playing Expert D&D with the AD&D books. (Which is what a lot of others have said was their experience as well.) Which seems to me like what you’re wanting.Roberthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16733274876782876659noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-31835651820888935362009-07-07T21:21:44.583-04:002009-07-07T21:21:44.583-04:00If Paizo would be willing to consider a Pathfinder...If Paizo would be willing to consider a Pathfinder Basic, I truly think that would be a great version of D&D for new and OD&D style players.<br /><br />Drop feats. Reduce skills down to only a small set of class specific ones. Keep the basic D20 mechanic and the full range of race and class options. <br /><br />The "White Box" version of S&W shows the possibility of how this could work. It just needs more options. <br /><br />Simple rules, plenty of options, would be my version of D&D.jdh417https://www.blogger.com/profile/14541882649762424101noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-15123128386782283452009-07-07T14:08:09.334-04:002009-07-07T14:08:09.334-04:00Isn't OSRIC the AD&D .75 people are lookin...<i>Isn't OSRIC the AD&D .75 people are looking for? It's AD&D minus things like weapon speeds, weapon v. AC, psionics, etc., etc.</i><br /><br>OSRIC is very good, but it's still a bit ... heftier than I want. The ability modifiers, spell and monster descriptions, combat sequence, and so forth are slightly more detailed than I have any need for. That's not a knock against OSRIC, just a comment on my own preferences these days.James Maliszewskihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00341941102398271464noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-21330994970172700282009-07-07T14:06:06.595-04:002009-07-07T14:06:06.595-04:00"Holmes" Basic might be 0.75 lite
Like a...<i>"Holmes" Basic might be 0.75 lite</i><br /><br>Like a lot of people round here, Holmes comes veeeerrrryy close to being my ideal version of <i>D&D</i>.James Maliszewskihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00341941102398271464noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-30149689466819972452009-07-07T13:24:47.065-04:002009-07-07T13:24:47.065-04:00When I think of D&D .75 I think of Basic Fanta...When I think of D&D .75 I think of Basic Fantasy Roleplay. It has everything I love about classic, AD&D and 3E. <br /><br />Classic - Quick playing rules. <br />AD&D - Separates race from class.<br />3E - Ascending AC.<br /><br />It hits my sweetspot when I want to play a fast and loose D&D game.Eric Nelsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12348937616065235517noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-50129643147768784972009-07-07T12:13:34.053-04:002009-07-07T12:13:34.053-04:00I shall have to go against the grain here. When I ...I shall have to go against the grain here. When I started the curent game, I fleshed out the Haunted Keep and intially wanted to run an OD&D game, even got the three original books and all of the supplements (for a pittance!!!). Then I re-read the Moldway basic rulebook and liked THAT one better (the one I started gaming with) wanted to run a Moldway/Cook Basic/Expert game, but then I re-read the AD&D Chapters on Combat and I liked the AD&D character class structure more, so, original AD&D it became!Brooser Bearhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08487438364129415650noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-38928266715834423582009-07-07T10:25:43.065-04:002009-07-07T10:25:43.065-04:00Isn't OSRIC the AD&D .75 people are lookin...Isn't OSRIC the AD&D .75 people are looking for? It's AD&D minus things like weapon speeds, weapon v. AC, psionics, etc., etc.Chris Tichenorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11866673632888599928noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-8240140936061903672009-07-07T09:26:00.336-04:002009-07-07T09:26:00.336-04:00"but I often worry that such trappings draw a..."but I often worry that such trappings draw attention away from actual "play" and more on the tweaking of character "builds."<br /><br />Don't worry so much. I work under the assumption that my fellow gamers can walk and chew gum at the same time... ;)Blotzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06993967190131485391noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-76602850969028390092009-07-07T08:04:22.896-04:002009-07-07T08:04:22.896-04:00I do prefer LL race-as-class, it's a very good...I do prefer LL race-as-class, it's a very good mechanism to maintain a humanocentric setting. I never like 1e's all-Elf parties.Simonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01173759805310975320noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-69224645829893684082009-07-07T06:59:36.513-04:002009-07-07T06:59:36.513-04:00I know that I've certainly felt this way at ti...I know that I've certainly felt this way at times. I have developed -for some B/X games I've run- rules for things like demihumans with "human" classes, new classes, etc. But I still usually come back to -to borrow a phrase of yours- "warts and all" B/X-LL.<br /><br />From the perspective of giving players some more flexibility, I think the AE supplement is a good thing, but I often worry that such trappings draw attention away from actual "play" and more on the tweaking of character "builds."Bigharahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14232940345429292782noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-60335584407089978612009-07-07T06:16:18.570-04:002009-07-07T06:16:18.570-04:00I'm working on a supplement, and I was going t...I'm working on a supplement, and I was going to use the slogan "a graphics card for your imagination" - there's nothing new under the sun I guess :)anarchisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05546197561922726279noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-25796596219546596762009-07-07T05:43:41.380-04:002009-07-07T05:43:41.380-04:00I appreciate your position.
Castles & Crusade...I appreciate your position.<br /><br />Castles & Crusades is a lot like this, in terms of its mechanics - unfortunately its presentation is not 'clean' like Dan Proctor's Labyrinth Lord, it's verbose and messy; with some poor editing at least in the early printings. Also spellcasters get too many spells at 1st level IMO. Still, its presentation of the Fighter & other classes is worth looking at.<br /><br />My personal preference now seems fixed on Labyrinth Lord as my core game, without much AD&D chrome. I think it's easy enough to call a Lawful Fighter a Paladin, or a nature-Cleric a Druid, without needing new rules. <br /><br />Maybe I really should look at Advanced Edition Characters, though...Simonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01173759805310975320noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-24907701195935576512009-07-07T05:02:07.275-04:002009-07-07T05:02:07.275-04:00In the immortal words of David Bowie:
You're n...In the immortal words of David Bowie:<br />You're not alone <br />;Partikidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17474295473142339717noreply@blogger.com