tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post7294045713127157740..comments2024-03-28T06:20:47.668-04:00Comments on GROGNARDIA: Who is That Guy?James Maliszewskihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00341941102398271464noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-31281368689035215672008-05-14T09:54:00.000-04:002008-05-14T09:54:00.000-04:00“The lizard men found it first and just claimed it...“<B>The lizard men found it first and just claimed it because of the warm fire where they could lie in a torpor and digest their meals.</B>”<BR/><BR/>I like that one.<BR/><BR/>Another:<BR/><BR/>There are no lizardwomen. To create new lizardmen, the lizardmen gather crocodile eggs. They place them in the brazier before the idol and perform a ceremony. The eggs will then hatch into lizardmen.<BR/><BR/>The idol is the image of Zyx, a chaotic demon. Zyx is usually depicted with a host of beast-men servants and other chimeras.<BR/><BR/>What if you put something else in the brazier? Perhaps there are a few “accidental” abominations living in the complex surrounding the idol.Roberthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16733274876782876659noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-19163490214956794292008-05-14T09:42:00.000-04:002008-05-14T09:42:00.000-04:00I like that too, actually, and if you read the OD&...I like that too, actually, and if you read the OD&D books, there's nary a mention of "gods" in it at all (not until Supplement IV anyway), with demigods, godlings, saints, demon lords, and high devils instead. I think that'd make for a very interesting take on <I>D&D</I> if you took that thread and ran with it.ifJames Maliszewskihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00341941102398271464noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-1097510000831299522008-05-14T09:30:00.000-04:002008-05-14T09:30:00.000-04:00I always like campaign worlds where there's just i...I always like campaign worlds where there's just innumerable gods, demi-gods, godlings, demon lords, nature spirits, and countless other higher beings (who may or may not exist/care/make themselves known) that are regularly (or not so regularly) worshiped. Little idols and shrines to forgotten gods tucked away in the various nooks and crannies of the world, some of them regularly visited, some of them not so much, and on rare occasion, just a few of them might actually "take notice" if you offer up the right prayers and sacrifices.<BR/><BR/>Fun times...Jack Badelairehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10932441028544500024noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-35997302548667292302008-05-14T09:02:00.000-04:002008-05-14T09:02:00.000-04:00It's Elmo from Sesame Street, without the makeup.(...It's Elmo from Sesame Street, without the makeup.<BR/><BR/>(Speaking of Elmo, it would be fun to run a muppet-themed Village of Hommlet sometime.)<BR/><BR/>- CalithenaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-37991724982892955212008-05-13T23:32:00.000-04:002008-05-13T23:32:00.000-04:00It's also similar to Mammon (also MM2); I've also ...It's also similar to Mammon (also MM2); I've also heard claims that it's Orcus.Stevenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05138730966226244399noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-31026067638030447022008-05-13T17:51:00.000-04:002008-05-13T17:51:00.000-04:00No one knows who it is, and obviously no one there...No one knows who it is, and obviously no one there much cares. The lizard men found it first and just claimed it because of the warm fire where they could lie in a torpor and digest their meals. The adventurers happened along and despite frantic attempts at negotiations by the lizard men slaughtered them all for xp and then yanked the magical ruby eyes out. Unfortunately the fire went out with the rubies gone and the dungeon inhabitants lost a little bit of warmth that day. Sad, really. No wonder they raid the surface.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-36804288848342844652008-05-13T16:09:00.000-04:002008-05-13T16:09:00.000-04:00My guess is that the Moloch connection is ex post ...My guess is that the Moloch connection is <I>ex post facto</I>, since no connection is drawn between the two illustrations anywhere that I know of. That said, it's an interesting coincidence nonetheless and it's the kind of thing one could easily spin into a meaningful connection in one's own campaign.James Maliszewskihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00341941102398271464noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-27925146874446941632008-05-13T16:02:00.001-04:002008-05-13T16:02:00.001-04:00If it is Moloch, that brazier he's holding is tail...If it is Moloch, that brazier he's holding is tailor-made for infant deposition (a little real-world authenticity, or pure artistic happenstance)?<BR/>- DougDoug Younghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08233615249302361280noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-25598767242541503162008-05-13T16:02:00.000-04:002008-05-13T16:02:00.000-04:00There's a definite similarity between the idol and...There's a definite similarity between the idol and Moloch, no question, although it's not a perfect match. This is one of those times when I acutely feel the need to fire off an email to Gary and see if he can offer any insights into the matter ...James Maliszewskihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00341941102398271464noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-67964010699030921302008-05-13T14:47:00.000-04:002008-05-13T14:47:00.000-04:00I think that one of the devils in Monster Manual 2...<I>I think that one of the devils in Monster Manual 2 (the 1E book, not the 3E version) looks a lot like the idol. I don't have that book handy, so I can't supply a name.</I><BR/><BR/>Moloch, lord of the 6th Plane. Page 48 of the MM2, for those of you playing along at home.<BR/><BR/>Yeah, the similarity is striking.<BR/><BR/>- Briantrollsmythhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01895349218958093151noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-73296268723534506952008-05-13T14:43:00.000-04:002008-05-13T14:43:00.000-04:00An “evil sorcerer” (cleric or MU) crea...An “evil sorcerer” (cleric or MU) created the idol and its temple. He charmed a lizardman shaman. Though the shaman and various “miracles” he indirectly led the lizardmen to worship the idol, so that he could then—man behind the curtain style—use it to command the lizardmen to do his bidding.<BR/><BR/>The sorcerer himself is now long gone. (What happened to him?) A new generation of lizardmen still worship the idol and have generalized its last commands as dogma.<BR/><BR/>The sorcerer’s own stronghold still exists within the temple unknown to the lizardmen. Waiting to be found so its traps may be sprung, its treasures looted, and these secrets behind revealed.Roberthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16733274876782876659noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-9837901602556523272008-05-13T14:42:00.000-04:002008-05-13T14:42:00.000-04:00I think that one of the devils in Monster Manual 2...I think that one of the devils in Monster Manual 2 (the 1E book, not the 3E version) looks a lot like the idol. I don't have that book handy, so I can't supply a name.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-88280423405679589952008-05-13T14:33:00.000-04:002008-05-13T14:33:00.000-04:00Obviously, it's the efreeti on the cover of the DM...Obviously, it's the efreeti on the cover of the DMG, who has convinced the lizard men to worship him as a god.<BR/><BR/>- Briantrollsmythhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01895349218958093151noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-23124762924901107272008-05-13T14:18:00.000-04:002008-05-13T14:18:00.000-04:00Much as I love the Kenzer guys -- and I do -- some...Much as I love the Kenzer guys -- and I do -- sometimes their humor escapes me (assuming this was meant to be humorous).James Maliszewskihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00341941102398271464noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-3503247138620933552008-05-13T14:11:00.000-04:002008-05-13T14:11:00.000-04:00Kenzer & Company made up their own answer. Accord...Kenzer & Company made up their own answer. According to them, that dude is Pagnyr'Parkus, Gawd of the Wastes, the Type XI demon.Jeff Rientshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17493878980535235896noreply@blogger.com