tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post7708704913401493657..comments2024-03-19T04:29:47.922-04:00Comments on GROGNARDIA: Open Friday: Dungeon Masters Adventure LogJames Maliszewskihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00341941102398271464noreply@blogger.comBlogger39125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-2412138882189078102011-02-28T14:08:59.313-05:002011-02-28T14:08:59.313-05:00@Bwian Marching order is at the top left of the se...@Bwian Marching order is at the top left of the second page.buzzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06243298798049780695noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-56945130072819284672011-02-28T08:37:48.822-05:002011-02-28T08:37:48.822-05:00A. 'Sister Rebecca fell in valiant combat with...A. 'Sister Rebecca fell in valiant combat with a Black Dragon'<br /><br />1) Character death is noted as an 'unusual event'!<br />2) Her HPs have not been updated<br />3) or maybe the unusual part was 'valiant'?<br /><br /><br />B. HOW many player characters???<br /><br />C. Nowhere to record marching order!Bwianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04193737279288462654noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-36090934684528584022011-02-13T16:39:01.312-05:002011-02-13T16:39:01.312-05:00Notice how the *ranger* is Lawful *Neutral*? Not t...Notice how the *ranger* is Lawful *Neutral*? Not too many of those runnin' around. That's like having a Chaotic Good paladin.Drewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14482027916237621821noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-26391949962332645712011-02-13T12:07:58.812-05:002011-02-13T12:07:58.812-05:00Trying to remember whether this supplement graces ...Trying to remember whether this supplement graces one of my storage boxes (I took a look at the cover on Wikipedia and it looks "familiar").<br /><br />I'm almost flabbergasted by how little magic these PCs own - at 5-7th level most of the characters have a couple of very basic magic items and a couple of disposable ones. I only see two suits of magical armour and 7 magic weapons for a party of 10 PCs (which is a darn big party in my experience too). <br /><br />It's been a few years, but I seem to remember c. 1980-82, by 3rd/4th level the PCs in my campaign all had at least basic magic armour; most had 2-3 magic weapons (1 or 2 basic, plus something with special pluses or abilities); a couple of miscellaneous items, and at least a large pouch worth of potions & scrolls. Sheesh, and some players claimed I was a little on the stingy side, LOL.JBMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13915780514486101083noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-34556003888822748862011-02-13T03:26:59.208-05:002011-02-13T03:26:59.208-05:00@Zarcanthropus:
'everyone knows Black Dougal d...@Zarcanthropus:<br />'everyone knows Black Dougal died of poison!':<br />It's a scurrilous lie to say otherwise! :-D<br /> <br />@Moorhawk:<br />'A 7th level Cleric single-handedly faces off against a large adult black dragon? And lived? Whoa!':<br />Sadly, no. :-((I loved her bit with Morgan Ironwolf where she refuses to heal her injured compatriot if the warrior slays their bound captives. Awesome roleplaying moment! It stuck with me over the years. Great example of realistic[or 'fantastic', ha! ha!]intra-party conflict) <br /><br />The entry under unusual events says:<br />'Sister Rebecca Falls In Valiant Combat With A Black Dragon.' Perhaps you read it as her FELLING a Black Dragon? <br /><br />And, of course, moar Morgan Ironwolf!:(My fav example PC evar!)<br /><br />CG? Everyone knows Morgan is Chaotic Awesome! ;-) <br /><br />Hmm.. Spear+2, you don't often see Magic Spears on Pre-gens/Example Chars. Ring of Warmth. Useful, but also not shown much on (N)PC sheets. These aren't flashy, and therefore not that interesting, I guess.<br /><br />'Morgan Ironwolf's Constitution +1 from Magic Chair':<br />I love in game moments like this, the exhilaration of discovering beneficial magic, solving brain-bending puzzles, and defeating powerful threats.(Or dying in the gutter, penniless, and without shoes 'cuz of kobold attack!)<br /><br />I'm gonna pick this up. I never had much interest in it until this review(Cuz I didn't know Morgan Ironwolf graced its pages! ;-)). Thanx James!velaranhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15689908090884198784noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-44729510476744845272011-02-12T09:57:10.670-05:002011-02-12T09:57:10.670-05:00I love the DM Log, and still use it today. In som...I love the DM Log, and still use it today. In some cases, it's the only record I have of the players and PCs from long-gone campaigns, and it always stirs fond memories of the friends, and the games too. In my recent games introducing my sons Ethan (almost 7) and Henry (almost 3) to D&D, I haven't gotten around to entering them in my DM Log, but it's been on my mind: Ethan the Ranger and Lollipop the Magic-User need their place in the rolls of Castle Greyhawk explorers! :D<br /><br />I also think that the DM Log offered several useful additional tools and handouts, besides the log pages and the inspriational example on the inside back cover: there were a number of useful charts and tables in it, and a set of illustrations clarifying the nature of various obscure polearms, and illustrating the various armors types. <br /><br />James said: <i>I think there's a lot to be gleaned by examining what's written here, even if, as is likely, it's entirely fictitious and bears no relationship whatsoever to an adventure played by the TSR notables whose names appear on it.</i><br /><br />While I can't speak for the other PCs listed, offhand (although IIRC Kevin Hendryx commented to me in a PM several years ago that Black Dougal was also a real PC), I can vouch that Illysio Morningstar was a real PC run by Steve Marsh, since I own a binder of Steve's PC sheets, and Illysio is in there. I always assumed that the PCs were real, and just another example of allusions and homages to players and their characters from the Lake Geneva campaigns (much like Robilar and Mordenkainen are mentioned in the World of Greyhawk entry for the Wild Coast, Mordy and the other MUs in the PHB, etc.). <br /><br />Some other tidbits: Tom and Rebecca Moldvay were siblings, not husband and wife (Rebecca is Tom's only surviving sibling; Jolan was another sister, interested in photography---I believe that Rebecca is Tom's only suriving sibling). Similarly, I think that Dave and Helen Cook were siblings too, but I'm not sure about that. <br /><br />And the handwriting is definitely Jeff Dee's!<br /><br />Allan.grodoghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11800184312511280050noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-64721170944927759662011-02-12T09:19:47.198-05:002011-02-12T09:19:47.198-05:00I used the DMs log for every AD&D campaign I r...I used the DMs log for every AD&D campaign I ran and found it extremely useful. Nevertheless, I almost never used the right hand page.<br /><br />Coincidentally, I busted out my DM's Log just last month to use in a new AD&D campaign my cousin and I are playing. What I found to be much more useful and interesting than the sample forms was the page listing combat modifiers. There is no other compilation like this in any of the hardbound books or even the DM's screen. It included mods derived from spells, environmental, and situational factors (e.g. attacking stunned opponents, fighting while intoxicated or enraged) There are also separate mod charts for HPs, damage, AC, and even missile fire. Great stuff!arcadaynhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17025690624100512801noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-34950841484941779292011-02-12T08:56:21.330-05:002011-02-12T08:56:21.330-05:00I used to use a GM cheat sheet of a similar (but s...I used to use a GM cheat sheet of a similar (but simpler) style. Something similar also appears in the earlier Ready Ref Sheets from Judge's Guild, as the "Character Checklist". In my own campaign, my simple form ones had space for HP annotations, a class and level reminder, armor class, and total plusses to hit and damage. (This is AD&D1e, though I might have used this system back into the OD&D/AD&D transition period in '78-'79, when the PHB was available but the DMG was not.) I think that I was inspired by the Judges Guild product, but it's been a long time. I know I didn't have this ...Rob Deanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01705547374834785174noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-12904666250455314792011-02-12T07:23:47.403-05:002011-02-12T07:23:47.403-05:00I think it's cool that there appear to be some...<b>I think it's cool that there appear to be some husband and wife co-gamers on there (the Cooks and the Moldvays). I could be mistaken - they could be brother/sister or even just coincidentally have the same last name. </b><br /><br />I'm pretty sure Sister Rebecca was Tom Moldvay's sister Rebecca.Jeff Rientshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17493878980535235896noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-84699460707196376652011-02-11T21:20:49.903-05:002011-02-11T21:20:49.903-05:00I have a hard time imagining a sample character of...<i>I have a hard time imagining a sample character of comparable power nowadays being so "weak."</i><br /><br />That reminds me of the adventures of Sick Sword, from back when this was Usenet, not the Internet (much less the Web). "No, that's no good. Keep rolling until you get an 18."<br /><br /><i>Also, how the hell are they carting around the tens of thousands of coins of loot?</i><br /><br />One large, flawless diamond. Remember, this was back when every town had a shop where all coins and treasure could be freely interchanged. Except the cursed ones, which was sometimes how you found out about the curse.Kenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16985843455089174060noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-35156576017216140622011-02-11T21:14:27.833-05:002011-02-11T21:14:27.833-05:00Akrasia already said it. Elrond Hubbard's clas...Akrasia already said it. Elrond Hubbard's classes.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12508594597349248576noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-60344938716436555702011-02-11T13:57:52.353-05:002011-02-11T13:57:52.353-05:00Don't worry folks... Black Dougal has an alter...Don't worry folks... Black Dougal has an alternate dimensional version of himself that lives on in <i>Revolt on Antares</i>!Duglashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04952607750940479779noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-90638059349265480092011-02-11T13:07:16.230-05:002011-02-11T13:07:16.230-05:00The death of Black Dougal.The death of Black Dougal.Lead Addicthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08643491376746930583noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-2267748080212198592011-02-11T12:46:13.798-05:002011-02-11T12:46:13.798-05:00The small size designated for possessions strikes ...The small size designated for possessions strikes me. Of course, it's probably best used to just list notable, magical possessions. It's already bursting at the seams as-is, and doesn't list a single "personal ability"! I've seen a few character sheets in the day that don't provide a large enough possessions section (once in a monty haul-style game, naturally), but it does make more sense here. ...Still.Jasonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01320444125159566443noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-62675913985848056492011-02-11T11:18:53.809-05:002011-02-11T11:18:53.809-05:00A 7th level Cleric single-handedly faces off again...A 7th level Cleric single-handedly faces off against a large adult black dragon? And lived? Whoa!Moorhawkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07859537118710762813noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-5486507628755863592011-02-11T11:15:45.580-05:002011-02-11T11:15:45.580-05:00I loved this product, and I used it all the time b...I loved this product, and I used it all the time back in the day. <br /><br />Remember, this was long before personal computers were actually useful and could generate similar documents. These pre-printed forms were pretty well lain-out and summarized a lot of essential information, especially the left page (I didn't use the right nearly as much). Plus, since they're all in one book, you have an ongoing campaign record.<br /><br />I dunno, this was one of my favorite accessories. And I loved looking at the sample page above!<br /><br />It should also be mentioned that this book had a middle section with pictures and descriptions of all the obscure weapons (hello, polearms!) and armor mentioned in the PHB, as well as some other good reference material. I though that stuff was pure gold.<br /><br />Now, if you want an example of a useless AD&D1e accessory, how about the NPC sheets? Eye-bleeding orange sheets perforated in the middle so that they were each 4.25" X 11"? Complete waste of paper.buzzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06243298798049780695noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-56389445377350873712011-02-11T10:47:22.713-05:002011-02-11T10:47:22.713-05:00Well one thing noticeable is that these are some o...Well one thing noticeable is that these are some of the example characters and real-world crew that put together B/X--playing AD&D. Which version do you think they actually played in Lake Geneva at that time?Chris Kutalikhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01414743509426875792noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-88147446690526606042011-02-11T09:30:16.569-05:002011-02-11T09:30:16.569-05:00Unless the Gnome Illusionist has an 18 in both Int...Unless the Gnome Illusionist has an 18 in both Int and Dex, he's exceeded his level limits. While it's very possible he had those ability scores, I note that no mention of his high dex is mentioned in the "combat adjustments" column. <br /><br />Maybe he used a Wish.chrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12542645462673221418noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-12346676481772504332011-02-11T09:14:54.216-05:002011-02-11T09:14:54.216-05:00Fred 9802 reminds me of when we used to just numbe...Fred 9802 reminds me of when we used to just number our characters (Fred 1, Fred 2...) because they died so often. No wonder Fred is up to 9802 since he seems to have a habit of mouthing off to powerful deities.cibethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16815626047653230637noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-89414323906956903892011-02-11T08:53:33.670-05:002011-02-11T08:53:33.670-05:00I have to admit that while at first glance I scoff...I have to admit that while at first glance I scoffed at the accountant-like nature of this chart, after closer inspection I found myself thinking about how useful this could be. While I have been playing D&D for nearly 30 years (yikes!) I have only recently started DMing in any kind of serious way. There are several good iPad apps that I use during games to keep track of things like initiative and NPC stat sheets (PDFs instead of printed paper) and having this kind of basic PC info at my finger tips seems really helpful. Thanks for sharing :DAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-80023554485712484922011-02-11T08:24:21.515-05:002011-02-11T08:24:21.515-05:00For some DMs, I can see where that would be useful...For some DMs, I can see where that would be useful. Our current gamemaster, for instance, who believes in hitting us with really nasty opponents, rolls really well, and then is surprised when the character with the highest HP nearly dies in a couple rounds of being beaten on. "I thought you had a lot more HP than that" is not what a player wants to hear!<br /><br />At any rate, having a quick reference like that, of all the session's relevant stats for the party and their opponents, on one single sheet of paper in front of the DM, should save time by cutting down on all the shuffling through paper and/or electronic files. OTOH, I think it would conflict badly with the work styles of most of the DMs I've had. Being able to keep it afterward as a memory aid would also be useful.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-91541729097829287342011-02-11T08:16:26.066-05:002011-02-11T08:16:26.066-05:00If I'm not mistaken, that's Jeff Dee's...If I'm not mistaken, that's Jeff Dee's penmanship on the entries. He has a rather distinctive lettering style.Doug Younghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08233615249302361280noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-47753619166021432962011-02-11T08:11:19.470-05:002011-02-11T08:11:19.470-05:00As a DM, what I've found important to keep for...As a DM, what I've found important to keep for myself are notes on things I might want to check without the players' knowledge - saving throws in particular, retainers' morale and loyalty, and passive detection abilities.<br /><br />The info on the TSR log seems almost oriented toward creating a memento, rather than a useful in-play aid. Certainly a lot of the info is redundant with what is kept on character sheets and adventure keys.Roger G-Shttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08594440701279968693noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-36127689892427888462011-02-11T03:43:22.377-05:002011-02-11T03:43:22.377-05:00The ’name’ 9802 was the thing that caught my eye t...The ’name’ 9802 was the thing that caught my eye too. My head started to spin tales about Fred actually being a robot (’cause that’d be cool y’know).Andershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00912770965880724986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-9729839744323053872011-02-11T02:58:14.603-05:002011-02-11T02:58:14.603-05:00I think it's cool that there appear to be some...I think it's cool that there appear to be some husband and wife co-gamers on there (the Cooks and the Moldvays). I could be mistaken - they could be brother/sister or even just coincidentally have the same last name. <br /><br />But, assuming that they are husband-and-wife, then I think it's interesting how the game was promoted as more of a family game versus the "popular" image of a bunch of sweaty guys in black concert t-shirts eating Doritos and playing in their friend's mom's basement.Martin R. Thomashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11672657745232101753noreply@blogger.com