tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post9111670411176759344..comments2024-03-29T07:58:31.156-04:00Comments on GROGNARDIA: Treasure MapsJames Maliszewskihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00341941102398271464noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-72343554060778145222009-03-10T19:22:00.000-04:002009-03-10T19:22:00.000-04:00I loved those JG map books. The adventures weren't...I loved those JG map books. The adventures weren't always great without some modification, but we were going to be modifying them anyway, now weren't we? One of the Jaquays maps was actually on a shield; I think it was only visible under a certain kind of moonlight, and led to the castle of a lycanthrope..?Baron Greystonehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16636292202674906870noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-34622276456250922792009-03-09T17:40:00.000-04:002009-03-09T17:40:00.000-04:00Which aerosol product?I don't recall anymore. It w...<I>Which aerosol product?</I><BR/><BR/>I don't recall anymore. It was some kind of potpourri-scented thing. I don't think they make that particular kind anymore.James Maliszewskihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00341941102398271464noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-23156883338518324952009-03-09T17:32:00.000-04:002009-03-09T17:32:00.000-04:00http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/dnd/downl...<I>http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/dnd/downloads</I><BR/><BR/>Oh, nifty!<BR/><BR/>Thanks for the link.James Maliszewskihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00341941102398271464noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-41026008793569210332009-03-09T14:11:00.000-04:002009-03-09T14:11:00.000-04:00Re the Judges Guild Book of Treasure Maps mentione...Re the Judges Guild Book of Treasure Maps mentioned in the article and column 1: those who frequent this blog will be interested to know that it was written by Paul Jaquays. 6 mini-scenarios, iirc, some more complex than others -- the scenario Welleran mentions, is hardly more than one room.<BR/><BR/>JG also did Books of Treasure Maps II and III, the last using their "pretending-this-isn't-AD&D" notation.Craighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03191412235339403625noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-62197287062156772832009-03-09T13:40:00.000-04:002009-03-09T13:40:00.000-04:00even an old mosaic portraying the unruined city as...<I>even an old mosaic portraying the unruined city as treasure maps.</I><BR/><BR/>Now <I>that's beautiful</I>: I can see the players comparing a higgledy-piggeldy mosaicked skyline with the ruin plan they've assembled, and going "hang on a minute: there's a huge tower shown here, but no sign of its foundations on the ground. What happened to it?"richardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13517340075234811323noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-77521974991862878352009-03-09T10:55:00.000-04:002009-03-09T10:55:00.000-04:00Tea is a good "discolorant" for prop maps.- GrimTea is a good "discolorant" for prop maps.<BR/><BR/>- GrimGrimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10790771329858521422noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-22321697658269896342009-03-09T06:15:00.000-04:002009-03-09T06:15:00.000-04:00And of course, your treasure map doesn't have to b...And of course, your treasure map doesn't have to be an actual map. I've used personal journals, "lost" historical texts, and even an old mosaic portraying the unruined city as treasure maps.<BR/><BR/>And there are also the maps that are valuable in and of themselves, not just what they reveal. Such as the traditional portfolio of navigation instructions for ship's pilots. And I've had books and documents that are treasure in and of themselves.<BR/><BR/>My first megadungeon ended up having a mapmaker (ex PC) set up a booth in the fair outside the main entrance. Turned quite a tidy profit buying and selling maps from adventuring parties.Reverance Pavanehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01217657347160811310noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-51268988374756048612009-03-09T00:54:00.000-04:002009-03-09T00:54:00.000-04:00chgowiz: That one, I believe a lot of progress was...chgowiz: That one, I believe a lot of progress was made early. When they counted the line segments and found there were 121 someone instantly suggested it was for an 11x11 grid. It languished for years probably because no one knew what island was depicted. One of the players was just sure one day, and we had a PC who was an expert diver (the x mark was in the water). For all I know, the player just decided to go for it and count on the DM to make sure he guessed right, just to get this puzzle finally over.K. Baileyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06623767121412820113noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-27107134947907445402009-03-08T22:58:00.000-04:002009-03-08T22:58:00.000-04:00@KBailey - The geek in me loves your story -- if i...@KBailey - The geek in me loves your story -- if it had been in hex or oct format, I would have probably had to squee. :)<BR/><BR/>The fact that it took 10 years... that's great! Did they get clues to diciphering it along the way?<BR/><BR/>(To think that in some games, this would have been reduced to a few dice rolls...)Michael S/Chgowizhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02052820400496340137noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-70674017949447112342009-03-08T22:41:00.000-04:002009-03-08T22:41:00.000-04:00I really like the idea of having the party find a ...I really like the idea of having the party find a map done by another party. (Our games never had anything so cool)<BR/><BR/>But it makes sense that one could always find a corpse of some recently-departed adventurer in the dungeon with map still clutched in cold dead fist... unless of course the galatinous cube has already passed through.Spike Pagehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01815664834043663899noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-6924075006256850292009-03-08T20:02:00.000-04:002009-03-08T20:02:00.000-04:00My friend Rob designed one of the most fiendish tr...My friend Rob designed one of the most fiendish treasure/puzzle maps I've ever heard of.<BR/><BR/>The 'map' was presented to the party as a long continuous squiggle. If you looked close at the squiggle, you could see that it was made of of a series of 121 line segments, each being either long or short.<BR/><BR/>If you treated the short segments as a '0' and the long segments as a '1' and mapped the squiggle out onto an 11x11 grid, it formed a picture of an island with an 'x' off to the corner.<BR/><BR/>Eventually the PCs found the right island and got the (immense) treasure from the marked spot, though it had to be split 50/50 with an NPC who had some of the keys needed to open it (itself another mini-puzzle).<BR/><BR/>Elapsed real world time from receiving puzzle to getting the treasure: about 10 years.K. Baileyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06623767121412820113noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-49850764543215596842009-03-08T18:19:00.000-04:002009-03-08T18:19:00.000-04:00One kind of treasure map that really interests me,...One kind of treasure map that really interests me, but is probably not viable today, is the map made by another (real) party. This is mentioned more than once in various early White Dwarfs (Musson and Turnbull both mention it). And requires the kind of player base that probably was only available to a few, even 'in the day' (Castle Greyhawk would be an excellent example for the sort of campaign that would suit this type of map).<BR/><BR/>Basically the DM 'procures' the map of a party he is running through his megadungeon. This can later be found by another group he is running - while not specifically a treasure map, it may or may not be useful to the party who finds it... after all it is not only a mapping of a part of the dungeon they are in, but may also mark traps, ungained treasures, or undefeated monsters...maxamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17143803116262064891noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-14213621183058496562009-03-08T17:36:00.000-04:002009-03-08T17:36:00.000-04:00I really enjoy making my own maps as props. I do h...I really enjoy making my own maps as props. I do have a map or two waiting for the party to find.<BR/><BR/>Which aerosol product?Michael S/Chgowizhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02052820400496340137noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-61469717066213509722009-03-08T17:02:00.000-04:002009-03-08T17:02:00.000-04:00"Treasure Maps" is as good as Ripper X says and, e..."Treasure Maps" is as good as Ripper X says and, even better, is free here (bottom of the page): <BR/><BR/>http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/dnd/downloadsChrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04072272223837426211noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-12073063135072213022009-03-08T16:26:00.000-04:002009-03-08T16:26:00.000-04:00The 2e product Treasure Maps was a wonderful produ...The 2e product <I>Treasure Maps</I> was a wonderful product! It contained something like 18 separate adventures. Each came with 2 maps, one for the players and one for the DM, also it came with a list of rumors about it which made talking about it all the more fun. A very good job by TSR.RipperXhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03506064393275174920noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-68864161921107834762009-03-08T16:07:00.000-04:002009-03-08T16:07:00.000-04:00I have the old Judges Guild buried somewhere amids...I have the old Judges Guild buried somewhere amidst my boxes of RPG stuff. Without excavating it, I recall that it had a rather geeky cover photo of what would now be called a group of LARPers (I remember the Monk girl was kind of cute though she had a really serious look on her face). Anway, the mini-dungeons were interesting enough as I remember, and I know one had an imprisoned demonlord that ended up as a recurring bad guy for a time in my old campaign.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com