tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post1032822313411252103..comments2024-03-28T13:22:07.685-04:00Comments on GROGNARDIA: Open Friday: More EnvyJames Maliszewskihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00341941102398271464noreply@blogger.comBlogger53125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-374901236931140902012-01-17T13:08:42.767-05:002012-01-17T13:08:42.767-05:00Dungeons and Dragons! That’s why I hang around the...Dungeons and Dragons! That’s why I hang around these blogs, to see what you guys are building. The grass looks really green over there!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-49051796163402274472011-03-02T18:42:38.709-05:002011-03-02T18:42:38.709-05:00A few friends and myself used to love The Fantasy ...A few friends and myself used to love The Fantasy Trip and would do tactical battles and little adventures, but I always wanted to do a full "In the Labyrinth" RPG campaign using all the rules. <br /><br />I envy the people that did, or still do, full campaigning using the Advanced Melee, Advanced Wizard, and In the Labyrinth books.Osskorreihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14408780872015323307noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-71125092014272180362011-03-01T05:17:54.969-05:002011-03-01T05:17:54.969-05:00Re: Savage Worlds - IMO Savage Worlds is a system ...Re: Savage Worlds - IMO Savage Worlds is a system that plays much better than it reads. <br /><br />Plus it's not really that expensive if all you want to do is sandbox it old-school style; The base rules and the fantasy companion will set you back $30. <br /><br />What I personally like about it is that it goes fairly lite on statblocks but still has some crunch - so for my money it's a good compromise between rules-lite systems like OD&D and massive-crunch systems like Pathfinder.<br /><br />The things that may turn old-schoolers off are twofold: It has a meta-gaming feature with fate points ('bennies') and it has a map-based tactical combat system.<br /><br />Oh, and it has levels but not classes. That could go both ways. :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-54635910208555528482011-02-27T15:29:47.946-05:002011-02-27T15:29:47.946-05:00Another nomination for Savage Worlds. I've eve...Another nomination for Savage Worlds. I've even got a few of the books, but they don't seem to explain why the people that play it *love it* so very, very much. I'd love to give it a shot and find out.<br /><br />Slight tangent, but, you know... massive minis games, like Warhammer. I played Warmachine for long enough to learn it isn't my thing - too expensive, too much effort, too competitive & too much 'keeping up with the joneses'. But I do like to see the giant battles roll out, with all the gorgeously painted miniatures and the amazing terrain. I don't want to play, but I am envious of the amount of fun they're having.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-90759809145729570402011-02-27T02:37:31.023-05:002011-02-27T02:37:31.023-05:00I feel envious of the Exalted community and the D&...I feel envious of the Exalted community and the D&D4e community. I'm completely uninterested in the first game, and less than interested in the second, but they sure do seem to be having a lot of fun. The 4e people even have folks like Wil Wheaton and several webcomics artists I like touting their system.<br /><br />@steelcaress: Earthdawn is my group's primary game. Unfortunately, we only get to meet to play about once every two months or more...Devin Parkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00944849659698291143noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-60804474529753512762011-02-27T01:44:17.865-05:002011-02-27T01:44:17.865-05:00Games I own, have never played, but wish I could f...Games I own, have never played, but wish I could find a group that did: GURPS, Harn, Tekumel, MERP, Dying Earth, Ars Magica, Traveller, HackMaster, Warhammer FRP, Poers & Perils.<br /><br />Games I played a couple of times (20 years ago) and wish I'd played a lot more of: DragonQuest, Pendragon, Morrow Project.<br /><br />One game that sounded totally amazing - in a Dragon magazine article IIRC - but could never get my group to play: Bunnies & Burrows.JBMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13915780514486101083noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-25894683949188948412011-02-26T11:25:19.517-05:002011-02-26T11:25:19.517-05:00@Aos:
Oh yeah, we're clear. It was my impreci...@Aos:<br />Oh yeah, we're clear. It was my imprecise response, due to tiredness, I'd say(up way too long at the time!), that was confusing.<br /><br />Back in the day, my group utilized conference calling at a member's dad's office to allow 3 people(out of our total 10, sometimes 14, with occasionals. Which I keep hearing was astoundingly large....) who had moved away to participate in the weekly sessions.(It worked ok; well, except for one guy's occasional suspicion that the unseen die on the other end of the line were rolling too 'good' for the absent players.[He has a suspicious mind! ;-)]) Skype's the same deal, in my book.<br /><br />'I'm pretty sure Ca(r)ter (the Skype rules! Guy) is in the same boat.':<br />From comments he's made here and elsewhere, I think so.<br /><br />'As for me, I'd prefer to play with these guys online as opposed to strangers face to face.':<br />Your friends always make the best groups, ime. But... I've made new good friends(and introduced new people to the game) by taking chances on strangers!(I quite distinctly remember people who didn't know each other gathering together to play RPGs back when I was in public school and college. Sometimes it seems there's less of that today, but I haven't tried to research it.) But the main thing is enjoyment, I'd say. <br />Thanx!<br /><br />@steelcaress:<br />Earthdawn was interesting. The Fantasy game that gave 'rationales' for dungeon delving, treasure collecting, the need for 'heroes', and fragmented societies. It should've been huge among the crowd that needed explanations for already-standard fantasy RPG tropes.(And it had a cool vibe, as well as a a confusing relationship to Shadowrun past history, IIRC) I had the 3 free pamphlets(2 of which had 2 Characters with stats, equipment, back stories and intro to the adventure that came in the 3rd[which oddly altered some info on the PC sheets!])r in the final FASA shipped to Game Stores, and I thought it looked kinda cool, but our group never ended up playing it. Also, I though the hardbounds were a bit expensive, but luckily FASA offered softbounds shortly thereafter. Though it has a small cult following, bouncing from the defunct FASA to Redbrick to Mongoose, getting bulkier and more expensive with each edition, along with various rules changes, didn't seem to help either. Perhaps a revival of the 1st Edition is in order? :-)<br /><br />Savage Worlds:<br />Huh. The game has a great buy-in: 9.95 for the core rules. The supplements aren't too expensive, from what I've seen. There seems to be a large fan community for the game, so I'm puzzled as to why some people can't find players for it! It's not my bag, due to certain issues, especially its action/fate points mechanic and injury rules, but I've known several people that liked it well enough to play, and it shows up at my local cons. Not to mention regular new releases, and 'Savage' Cthulu, of all things! ;-) <br />Good luck!velaranhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15689908090884198784noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-27256199303402755812011-02-26T10:08:43.717-05:002011-02-26T10:08:43.717-05:00I second Badger King's comment. :(
I've ...I second Badger King's comment. :(<br /><br />I've got two communities I'm envious of:<br /><br />Earthdawn. I used to read the core book almost every day (or so it seems now) and jumped at the chance when I had to chance to play and renew old acquaintances (a different tale for a different time). That's when FASA held the license. Try finding players now...<br /><br />Savage Worlds. I have quite a few sourcebooks (mined for ideas), but really can't find a group to try it. Especially Savage Mars. It's almost like saying "I'd like to drink the Kool-Aid" but can't find anyone to mix it.Eric R. Wirsinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04632409261940844934noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-79649160679456758392011-02-26T09:54:19.380-05:002011-02-26T09:54:19.380-05:00@ Velaran: fair enough. just so we're clear, I...@ Velaran: fair enough. just so we're clear, I'm not a one true way kind of guy. I prefer ftf to skype. however Skype has some advantages, namely I can play with my friends from across the country. I'm pretty sure Cater (the Skype rules! Guy) is in the same boat. As for me, I'd prefer to play with these guys online as opposed to strangers face to face.Aoshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00145284080419502886noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-43139537806220551982011-02-26T09:13:38.236-05:002011-02-26T09:13:38.236-05:00@Aos:
I don't think you were trying to be jerk...@Aos:<br />I don't think you were trying to be jerkass or anything, and I think, upon reading my post, it could 'sound' as though I presumed that(Though I didn't 'call out' the SKYPE RULES guy if you notice... :-)); partially due to my natural verbosity, I think. I think I should've qualified the 'technophobe' and dumbass'' statement as the two most common reaction of over-'enthusiastic'-VTTers(a rare breed, I think. Most people seem to see it as a tool, not the One True Way, The Next Big Thing In Gaming, The Birth of the Singularity, etc...) to those who don't much care for the experience. I'm neither, actually. But I've done it, was ok with it, but prefer facetime, by far. My roommate used it for a while to keep contact with his group, and liked it well enough.(Which I forgot to mention in original, dangit.)<br /><br />Thanx for your response. Apologies for seeming to 'take offense', especially over something that's really a non-issue in a game, of all things!velaranhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15689908090884198784noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-63259646685734916692011-02-26T08:49:28.607-05:002011-02-26T08:49:28.607-05:00I'm envious of people who played in really wil...I'm envious of people who played in really wild and imaginative settings with seriously loyal fan groups. Top of the list is certainly Empire of the Petal Throne. The same goes for Jorune as well, to a lesser extent.Ben L.https://www.blogger.com/profile/04568198881628052274noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-43230589319909647802011-02-26T06:14:18.244-05:002011-02-26T06:14:18.244-05:00d20 or 4E, because if I wanted to DM either I migh...d20 or 4E, because if I wanted to DM either I might be able to find players :(<br /><br />Alternatively, Call of Cthulhu, because their players seem to expect that characters might die.anarchisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05546197561922726279noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-52677530237866532222011-02-26T02:48:26.835-05:002011-02-26T02:48:26.835-05:00@ velarian
You read way too much into my comment. ...@ velarian<br />You read way too much into my comment. I'll leave it at that.Aoshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00145284080419502886noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-44214891352074897032011-02-25T22:08:57.443-05:002011-02-25T22:08:57.443-05:00Ummm... that should say Pondsmith, not SPindsmith....Ummm... that should say Pondsmith, not SPindsmith... stupid typing on a mini-keyboard.....The Badger Kinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09020950272210873449noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-3057060283689368682011-02-25T22:07:27.385-05:002011-02-25T22:07:27.385-05:00First, I would like to third the motion that I am ...First, I would like to third the motion that I am jealous of anyone with a regular gaming group. I have played one 4 hour session of D&D in the past..... oh......17 years?<br /><br />Second, I have fond memories of the community that sprung up around Cyberpunk 2020 back in the day. Well... other than Dana Jorgensen. But I can let that slide, since he mostly just slammed idiots. But for a while, there was a vibrant community. I can remember helping put out a few issues of a fanzine for a while, and contributing to the Neo-City One Project, which was also sweet. There was also a lot of interaction with Mike Spindsmith and Ross "Spyke!" Wynn back in the day. Sadly, by the time V3 came out.... it was all over but the crying.The Badger Kinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09020950272210873449noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-16036133253697732942011-02-25T19:50:15.199-05:002011-02-25T19:50:15.199-05:00Hack Master. Kenzer & Co. have produced a gre...Hack Master. Kenzer & Co. have produced a great game surrounded by a great community, but I've never found players who appreciate the crunch.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-31184129610635085812011-02-25T18:59:58.964-05:002011-02-25T18:59:58.964-05:00I have a few. First and foremost is probably the ...I have a few. First and foremost is probably the Harnmaster fans. It's much closer to the historical period I study (the Twelfth Century) and the quality of the products seems very high. Still the buy in is a bit steep, and I'm not really sure what to do with it. My gaming is typically a bit more gonzo/surreal.<br /><br />RuneQuest is another one. I love BRP, but I've never owned a copy of Chaosium's RQ and know virtually nothing about Glorantha. The people who discuss it in various circles make it sound tantalizing, but alas I doubt I shall play it in the near future.<br /><br />Tekumel would be my last one, but only in it's pseudo-OD&D form. I think it has a great pulp fantasy in the extreme kind of vibe, but I just can't seem to wrap my head around it entirely. Oh well.Mirandahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10745062840676790649noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-8193863350861195562011-02-25T18:57:59.536-05:002011-02-25T18:57:59.536-05:00I was a RuneQuest/CoC/DnD kid. We played a lot of ...I was a RuneQuest/CoC/DnD kid. We played a lot of other games, but those were the main three. The one I was always fascinated with, and a lot of my friends collected the books, was Rolemaster. I tried three different GMs out who ran ICE games, and no matter how good a GM they were, I hated the system. I've had MERP sitting on my shelf for years, never used. I ran a LOTR game with RQ3 for a while.<br />I have honestly not met more than 5 people in all my years gaming that were real fans of ICE games. I know such people exist, because they wouldn't have been able to sustain printing all those books throughout the 80s and 90s. I would just like to have had a favorable experience with ICE so I understood what all the fuss was about.tedoponhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18390659501629920232noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-60140058551312381072011-02-25T17:42:04.972-05:002011-02-25T17:42:04.972-05:00I would have to go with Pendragon. Always wanted ...I would have to go with Pendragon. Always wanted to play in an Arthurian campaign. Loved the books and the idea of the game. Not sure if it would have played well, but sure would have liked to have been given the chance.Gothridge Manorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11371740532802642972noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-91462389449029340612011-02-25T17:35:19.648-05:002011-02-25T17:35:19.648-05:00No real envy I can think of. Maybe the fact I nev...No real envy I can think of. Maybe the fact I never got to play unalloyed OD&D.(As of yet.)<br /><br />@Aos:<br />Skype gaming and suchlike:<br />'Most people who sneer at the idea don't have any real experience with it.':<br />Absolutely subjective. 'Most'?(I would've agreed with 'some', 'there are those', 'a few', etc...) There are a fair number of people who have tried it and simply don't care for it.(And even those who haven't, but don't care for the idea have a valid viewpoint. It's a game after all, and deciding not to play via remote relay is hardly a big deal. NOT utilizing this option does not make those who opt-out a technophobe or a dumbass.) The actual presence of people adds a LOT to a game, imo. Virtual gaming is fine for those who want it or have no other option, I'd say.<br /><br /><br />Finding a 'gaming' group:<br />I've had at least one at any given time. Guess I've been lucky from some comments I've seen.<br />Friends, family, acquaintances, anyone who shows an interest is a great place to start, ime. I never understood why some people require other players to be 'gamers', as if it were some kind of profession or something.velaranhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15689908090884198784noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-25817489937088956992011-02-25T16:47:29.054-05:002011-02-25T16:47:29.054-05:00I'm kinda envious of people who got to play (o...I'm kinda envious of people who got to play (or still play) the Fantasy Trip. When I started in the hobby, I saw it advertised in White Dwarf, but it was never stocked in my local gamestore.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-74551976858618466892011-02-25T16:36:31.581-05:002011-02-25T16:36:31.581-05:00Gangbusters anyone? I remember cobbling together ...Gangbusters anyone? I remember cobbling together a campaign connecting all of the TSR published adventures with a dedicated gaming group in the late 1980's. Every player had at least two characters or more to accommodate the multiple plots. <br /><br />The reason I remember this was that while I usually was a DM (I hate the GM name) in the campaigns - I co-DM'ed the campaign with a friend and we alternated plots/adventures/ game sessions. The lesson: I was a terrible player - losing characters right, left and centre. It became a bit of a running gag. In any event we choreographed the outline of the finale's timing together but I modified it (so as not to give my co-DM any advantage) and ran the finale.<br /><br />The finale was epic with fistfights, car chases, gunfire etc. all scheduled to reach the Lake Geneva (Chacago) trainstation in time to engage in a huge battle between all of the factions. I know the Untouchables was out. Fun times but the usual result was "campaign fatigue" when it became difficult to top the earlier adventures we moved on to a different game.<br /><br />I tried to set a campaign in Los Angeles but the sheer work involved dissuaded me and we moved on.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-23995287333861652542011-02-25T16:07:26.402-05:002011-02-25T16:07:26.402-05:00Ok, it's weird but... I'm envious of "...Ok, it's weird but... I'm envious of "Rolemaster" grognards. I knew some of them years ago, and they knew their game like a good child knows his lesson. They enjoyed "Rolemaster" so much, and I use to think that, perhaps, I never played it right.José Joaquín Rodríguezhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05419481758371621113noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-371955564863404552011-02-25T15:53:47.939-05:002011-02-25T15:53:47.939-05:00I'd have to say - chess.I'd have to say - chess.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-51549923739863865262011-02-25T14:16:19.214-05:002011-02-25T14:16:19.214-05:00Well I am quite envious of all the people able to ...Well I am quite envious of all the people able to attend cons, especially the major ones in the US and UK. Many of the discussions I get at second hand are quite interesting.<br /><br />I'm impressed by how the <i>Ars Magica</i> community has grown over the decades and had such a profound influence on the production of the new editions. Unfortunately I never really had the time to follow it after it left Lion Rampart.<br /><br />On the other hand I've finally left the Glorantha/Runequest/Heroquest communities. Because I never made the change to <i>Heroquest</i>, it means it was getting less and less applicable to stuff I was doing {although it was hastened by the increasing rudeness of some of the non-Uz trolls on the list). So that's a group I've become "anti-envious" of.Reverance Pavanehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01217657347160811310noreply@blogger.com