tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post2789302017042974377..comments2024-03-28T18:47:26.087-04:00Comments on GROGNARDIA: Brief Follow-UpsJames Maliszewskihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00341941102398271464noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-73252421425838764162010-05-18T18:54:07.495-04:002010-05-18T18:54:07.495-04:00Yeah, Stormbringer is great. I guess I just apprec...Yeah, Stormbringer is great. I guess I just appreciate it too much to realize it's underappreciated. Huh. Funny.Michael (in NYC)https://www.blogger.com/profile/07812962280866467016noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-89849066943449966642010-05-18T10:52:09.775-04:002010-05-18T10:52:09.775-04:00P&P? Really?
I remember it being an apocalyps...<i>P&P? Really?<br /><br />I remember it being an apocalypse of formulas and game mechanics bad enough to make FGU's Aftermath look streamlined.</i><br /><br>The game itself has lots of issues and mathematical complexity is definitely one of them. However, its setting is superb and the way the rules and the setting worked together (especially magic) was inspiring. Also, it was written by Richard Snider, a player in Dave Arneson's Blackmoor campaign and some of its rules bear resemblance to more developed versions of what we saw in <i>Adventures in Fantasy</i>.James Maliszewskihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00341941102398271464noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-36012214363555991962010-05-18T10:50:18.541-04:002010-05-18T10:50:18.541-04:00On the other hand I've always felt Lords of Cr...<i>On the other hand I've always felt Lords of Creation was even shoddier than mid-AH Runequest supplements. They shared much of the same production quality, and an overlap in time, which may make it an unthinking prejudice on my part.</i><br /><br>It's not wholly unthinking. The production values <i>were</i> terrible and the game itself is something of an acquired taste. I didn't like it much as a younger man, but I came to appreciate it more as I got older and, even then, I'm not entirely sure I could play it straight, as it's very "wahoo" in its approach. Still, there are some excellent ideas within its page.James Maliszewskihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00341941102398271464noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-57611309826025786702010-05-15T20:19:14.383-04:002010-05-15T20:19:14.383-04:00If I'd thought Stormbringer was under-apprecia...If I'd thought Stormbringer was under-appreciated I would have voted it. Probably my favorite game ever. But I guess pretty much anything that's not D&D or WoD could be defined as underappreciated. <br /><br />If Stormbringer is acceptable, Stormbringer would be my vote, followed by T&T. Otherwise DragonQuest.<br /><br />Powers & Perils? Seriously? Wow. I bought a copy two years ago, read the rules, and was astounded by needlessly complex mechanics, a desperate need for errata, and dry writing.<br /><br />I haven't had the chance to read Lords of Creation.David Alastair Haydenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04388339435468414583noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-80664106996911389722010-05-15T19:08:48.703-04:002010-05-15T19:08:48.703-04:00Wait, hold on...
P&P? Really?
I remember it ...Wait, hold on...<br /><br />P&P? Really?<br /><br />I remember it being an apocalypse of formulas and game mechanics bad enough to make FGU's Aftermath look streamlined.George From NYhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06158111795024631345noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-4386380362827964992010-05-15T16:49:55.859-04:002010-05-15T16:49:55.859-04:00I have all three games and I concur that they are ...I have all three games and I concur that they are all under-appreciated.Jimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18158916950442942918noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-78688475921807627342010-05-15T15:39:39.477-04:002010-05-15T15:39:39.477-04:00One thing I always loved about Stormbringer and e...One thing I always loved about Stormbringer and early CoC is the fantastic Gene Day art used in those publications. My favorite being the cover of Stormbringer Companion: http://tinyurl.com/29jtrb7<br /><br />A great artist who died way too young...crowkinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03066821931343968827noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-5764254970766967372010-05-15T13:23:08.891-04:002010-05-15T13:23:08.891-04:00I really like Elric! (the 1993 version of SB). It...I really like <i>Elric!</i> (the 1993 version of SB). It's one of my favourite incarnations of BRP. I'm curious why some people think that it is so inferior to 1e <i>Stormbringer</i> (which I don't own, and seems prohibitively expensive these days).<br /><br />Also, aren't editions 1e-4e of <i>Stormbringer</i> essentially the same (with later editions simply including material from the companion, additional rules tweaks, etc.)?Akrasiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08734103159691571156noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-41356610417661331182010-05-15T12:11:22.053-04:002010-05-15T12:11:22.053-04:00I always felt Elric spoiled the beauty of Stormbri...I always felt <i>Elric</i> spoiled the beauty of <i>Stormbringer</i>. The only thing I use from editions after the first is the variable power rule for demons. But the demon-summoning mechanism was tres magnifique.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.powersandperils.org/" rel="nofollow"><i>Powers & Perils</i></a> was definitely written by a wargaming company, but had a much better feel for Hyperborean sword & sorcery than anything else at the time (and I can't think of anything that easily approaches it even now). The magic system heavily integrates with the campaign world and cosmology of <i>Perilous Lands</i> by the way, but you don't really realise that until you get that part of it (the basic rule set is a set of rules, almost without explanation and context).<br /><br />On the other hand I've always felt <i>Lords of Creation</i> was even shoddier than mid-AH <i>Runequest</i> supplements. They shared much of the same production quality, and an overlap in time, which may make it an unthinking prejudice on my part.Reverance Pavanehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01217657347160811310noreply@blogger.com