tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post3305465963474752364..comments2024-03-19T07:56:00.031-04:00Comments on GROGNARDIA: OSRCon: Dwimmermount, Session 1James Maliszewskihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00341941102398271464noreply@blogger.comBlogger30125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-52279211197479634282012-08-23T22:39:45.535-04:002012-08-23T22:39:45.535-04:00Sorry to arrive so late to the conversation, but I...Sorry to arrive so late to the conversation, but I am just seeing this now! I had a great time playing at your table on Friday night, and what we found near the end of the session definitely left me hungry for more Dwimmermount :)<br /><br />Ken was acting inappropriately for sure, but it did not detract from my fun at all. I've probably played in too many public games over the years and have become jaded to disruptive players. If his behavior was bothering you, James, it didn't show, and you continued to move the game forward without a hitch.<br /><br />As I mentioned to you on G+, I'm really looking forward to the published version of Dwimmermount, and I hope I get a chance to sit at your table again (to play D&D, Thousand Suns, or anything else). Thanks for a great game!Mike Grubernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-62855231723190830422012-08-20T10:57:56.895-04:002012-08-20T10:57:56.895-04:00Have you considered running a higher level game to...Have you considered running a higher level game to see how a new party would deal with the lower reaches of Dwimmermount? Tom Bolenbaughnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-28174604243147244422012-08-20T10:23:02.408-04:002012-08-20T10:23:02.408-04:00I got to play in Ken's T&T game at the con...I got to play in Ken's T&T game at the con and he was totally awesome.Mike Hensleynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-72738065522524386392012-08-19T22:52:20.780-04:002012-08-19T22:52:20.780-04:00My own style-of-play is often pretty close to Ken&...My own style-of-play is often pretty close to Ken's. That said, an EIGHT-player game at a CONVENTION is a really good time to go with the flow in deference to the enjoyment of the GM and the other players. Ugh...Nemomemehttp://twitter.com/nemomemenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-82179047802354289232012-08-19T21:47:48.483-04:002012-08-19T21:47:48.483-04:00Well it seemed it wasn't just some faux pas an...Well it seemed it wasn't just some faux pas and pretty much ruined the experience for some players as you can read from Greg Gillespie (the Barrowmaze author) over on his blog: http://discourseanddragons.blogspot.ca/2012/08/osrcon_13.htmlZDomnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-81317185498989068902012-08-19T17:23:55.913-04:002012-08-19T17:23:55.913-04:00Anyway, the best advice above is that if someone g...Anyway, the best advice above is that if someone genuinely dislikes a game system, even if you like that person it's best not to let them play the disliked game with you.simontmnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-19298621043578436492012-08-19T17:17:47.968-04:002012-08-19T17:17:47.968-04:00Disruptive players are always a risk with public g...Disruptive players are always a risk with public games; I think they're a bigger problem with dungeon crawls than with most other scenarios because of the high risk that they'll get the rest of the party killed. I had one, another Simon, three years ago at the London D&D Meetup - he did get another PC killed, though the player blamed me, the evil GM, probably because it was 3.5e but I was running a BX module, B7 Rahasia, and he didn't expect an 'unbalanced' encounter. :\simontmnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-68156836531460846362012-08-19T12:15:40.086-04:002012-08-19T12:15:40.086-04:00LOL. The last comment was two days ago!! Everythin...LOL. The last comment was two days ago!! Everything had died down. You just brought it back up. LOL.Nathan's a Goofnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-89237775562704418512012-08-19T10:46:17.981-04:002012-08-19T10:46:17.981-04:00Hey, guys, come on. If Mr. St. Andre made a poor ...Hey, guys, come on. If Mr. St. Andre made a poor showing and committed some faux pas, then that's unfortunate. But it's not worth publicly excoriating him over it. I mean, what needed to be said has more than been said, and at this point it's just kicking someone while they're down.Nathan Eastonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-38575162305625297172012-08-17T23:16:11.797-04:002012-08-17T23:16:11.797-04:00When are you converting Dwimmermount to DCC Rpg? When are you converting Dwimmermount to DCC Rpg? Bryguy138https://www.blogger.com/profile/13445655987736995155noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-36661525292539946982012-08-17T16:31:42.350-04:002012-08-17T16:31:42.350-04:00That is to say, I'm aware the kickstarter went...That is to say, I'm aware the kickstarter went well, but I'd love to here how things are chugging along and when you'll be able to tantalize us further.Rachelnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-40783115104729857662012-08-17T16:29:29.326-04:002012-08-17T16:29:29.326-04:00This reminds me, James, when are we going to be se...This reminds me, James, when are we going to be seeing more of Dwimmermount? I really look forward to buying a module, or something.Rachelnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-29761901700905780842012-08-17T16:17:50.518-04:002012-08-17T16:17:50.518-04:00Cheer up James, he's obviously a dick head, th...Cheer up James, he's obviously a dick head, there are plenty of them around and the best thing to do is never game with them again. It's very old and very good games master advice that purports to remove disruptive players from the game. We've all had them at some point. There really is no shortage of good players who will not try to ruin a gaming session just because something isn't going all their way, these kind of idiots are thankfully very rare. And just because someone got a game into print doesn't make them Gary Gygax, does it?The Recursion Kingnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-46389945354372278232012-08-17T15:41:13.921-04:002012-08-17T15:41:13.921-04:00It does seem, if you are one of the giants of the ...It does seem, if you are one of the giants of the industry, you should graciously play amongst the ardent fans of any RPG system and bask in the warm glow of being part of creating such a cool thing. I mean, I hate the mechanics of D&D as much as the next guy, but I sure as shootin' would play it if it was being offered and have a good time doing so. If I did not find such an activity enjoyable, sitting down with others and disturbing the enterprise, well then I am just an asshole. <br /><br />Thanks James for your investment in the hobby. Now can someone show me where the D100 blogs are at?Jay Murphynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-55174051884923218352012-08-17T12:46:15.638-04:002012-08-17T12:46:15.638-04:00The lucky bloodlusting magic user and orc mask wea...The lucky bloodlusting magic user and orc mask wearing sounds like mad wizard stuff to me and pretty fun. The rules editorializing, however, would have driven me nuts. I don't play a game so I can debate the quality of the rules. Rule #1 of Fight Club, quite literally applies. When you are playing D&D you play D&D, you don't <i>talk about D&D!</i> That's like playing a video game, getting to a critical part, and instead of getting to play, it gives you a cutscene...<i>of the source code!</i>xdpaulnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-86474478940848604572012-08-17T10:04:04.531-04:002012-08-17T10:04:04.531-04:00"he took a different tack, turning his magici..."he took a different tack, turning his magician into a bloodthirsty <br />combatant, leaping into battle and wielding his dagger with reckless <br />abandon"<br /><br />Ha, laughed out loud at that.<br /><br />I've had a few instances of attention-whoring and passive-agression at my own table. I've learned to deal with it by providing some amusement for myself and the other players by arranging for the disruptive player's characters to die, one after the other, in outrageously gruesome and/or embarrassing situations :)<br /><br />Surprisingly, I've never gotten any flak from the offending players for it; it actually seems to diffuse any building animosity.BtBG Alnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-8651776861247011842012-08-17T09:41:03.997-04:002012-08-17T09:41:03.997-04:00sounds like classic RPG douche behavior to me. If...sounds like classic RPG douche behavior to me. If you only want to play a certain character, don't ask the DM to make a character for you. If you only want to play a certain game, don't sign up for a different game - particularly one you hate. If you do sign up for a game you hate (for some reason) don't spend the whole time whining about how much you hate it. <br /><br />As far as comments like "he wants gaming to be whatever you want it to be regardless of the rules" I'm not even sure what that means. If he wants to play a game where the rules can be changed and modified at the individual whim of the players he should find himself a room to sit in and roll dice all day long by himself. He can do whatever the heck he wants that way, rules be damned. <br /><br />You have to bend over backwards pretty damn far in order to excuse that kind of behavior...Dannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-46224558255522783212012-08-17T09:04:20.202-04:002012-08-17T09:04:20.202-04:00Well in that case, the next time you run a game le...Well in that case, the next time you run a game let me come over so I can continuously complain about the rules and make a mockery out of it with my PC. Will see how " interesting" you think the game's becoming.ironfacenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-50321063343525209282012-08-17T08:30:21.601-04:002012-08-17T08:30:21.601-04:00It seems evident Ken broke the social contract at ...It seems evident Ken broke the social contract at the table. He asked to play D&D, he should have deferred to the authority of the DM, if for no other reason than respect for his position and the players who signed to play D&D, not T&T. I would have probably asked him (politely) to leave the game.Antonio Eleuterinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-38057891349084205292012-08-17T05:27:22.781-04:002012-08-17T05:27:22.781-04:00I like Ken, many years ago I played in one of his ...I like Ken, many years ago I played in one of his games of Mercenaries, Spies & Private Eyes at a Con in London, but to ask to participate in a game then complain about the rules set and generally try to disrupt the game is very petty (especially bringing up negative comparisons with the system he wrote). It looks as though this was a calculated move to use his "celebrity" status to try and get one over on players of "the other game". Not cool, not cool at all. I would have expected better from such a nice guy. Perhaps he was having a rough day?Tim Knightnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-73946984456153130602012-08-17T05:11:24.019-04:002012-08-17T05:11:24.019-04:00I have a friend I really like, that I won't le...I have a friend I really like, that I won't let at my table. We play GURPS, and he doesn't like the system - and will make a point of complaining about the system while he plays. It just isn't the game he wants it to be, but complaining to those of us who like how it works doesn't make the game fun. So, I don't let him play - it's a system/player mismatch. I'm not saying the same situation happened here, but it reminded me of it.Peter V. Dell'Ortonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-54646827830237020022012-08-17T01:24:14.570-04:002012-08-17T01:24:14.570-04:00Sounds like Ken actually made your game a lot more...Sounds like Ken actually made your game a lot more interesting. Quit complaining. Ben Stokesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-3583472587375522382012-08-17T00:36:06.788-04:002012-08-17T00:36:06.788-04:00I would've gladly wadded up Ken's characte...I would've gladly wadded up Ken's character sheet and made him eat it if it were me. THen I'd tell him what I really think of HIS game. So James, you handled the situation better than I would have. Congrats!Trollslayernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-21260928775546799942012-08-16T23:05:08.735-04:002012-08-16T23:05:08.735-04:00Well, it still doesn't give him a licence to a...Well, it still doesn't give him a licence to act like a spoiled brat. Remember, he approached James first and knew soon afterwards they were going to play [sic] "that other game", so it wasn't like somebody was twisting his arm and telling him that he had to play or else! The man should of known better,and at the very least, should at the very least quit and let people enjoy themselves.ironfacenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-41048178157325809472012-08-16T22:54:15.728-04:002012-08-16T22:54:15.728-04:00I played a game run by Ken today at gencon, and it...I played a game run by Ken today at gencon, and it was a wonderful experience. He was helpful in explaining the rules for newer players, and very quick at improvising at weird things we pulled. He also adapted a prefabricated adventure so that anybody familiar with it was still on their toes. Some of the stuff we did was Leatherface orc weird. Ask him about Willis the Spider.Wingyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14667762022171994098noreply@blogger.com