tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post3570027317360937262..comments2024-03-29T00:32:33.920-04:00Comments on GROGNARDIA: My Favorite OD&D SupplementJames Maliszewskihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00341941102398271464noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-48905356219781864932023-06-14T06:13:42.723-04:002023-06-14T06:13:42.723-04:00Mikus, you're replying to a comment that's...Mikus, you're replying to a comment that's 13 years and 7 months old with some kind of political rant. <br /><br />Took me a few minutes to understand what it's all about...I guess richard was saying that children shouldn't see naked women being sacrificed on books marketed to them, and you're disagreeing with that sentiment and saying it will aid in their ability to produce offspring. <br /><br />You can believe whatever you want, but you might want to read up on the science regarding soy.Scarrabhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14965186557362072925noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-44724236076577466712022-09-06T11:26:35.081-04:002022-09-06T11:26:35.081-04:00Really? The children that played D&D back the...Really? The children that played D&D back then were likely 99% boys 12 and up. This cover is less provocative than a Cross Your Heart Bra commercial from the 70's or nearly any modern Disney program. We watched Benny Hill right after playing D&D nearly every night.<br />Us boys grew up liking girls and girly liking that we did. So we produced real children. Between the soy products, AD&D 2nd forward and wokeism we now have children who cant get it right after checking their own pants. You need to get a grip on reality. This cover has nothing on anything dumped on our kids today, like Transgender Story Hour for preteens. I'll take this over anything which is today 'approved for children 12 and under' the the woke culture of nonsensical left.Mikushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10611502098261372931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-11388216221217174942009-02-13T15:03:00.000-05:002009-02-13T15:03:00.000-05:00They'd work fine to replace the magic-user lists, ...<I>They'd work fine to replace the magic-user lists, maybe keep a couple of traditional mu spells like read magic and knock but in the main ditch the rest.</I><BR/><BR/>Interestingly, there's some place in <I>Eldritch Wizardry</I> where druids are mistakenly referred to as a sub-class of magic-user.James Maliszewskihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00341941102398271464noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-71653566123821233882009-02-13T00:30:00.000-05:002009-02-13T00:30:00.000-05:00Well said! It definitely has a lot of originality,...Well said! It definitely has a lot of originality, and a pulp vibe about it, and that is why I also like it.<BR/><BR/><I>"It's a very suggestive illustration, one that gets me to thinking of Robert E. Howard and Clark Ashton Smith and other writers from the Golden Age of the Pulps."</I><BR/><BR/>Too right! The cover is in the same style of classic pulp, namely Margaret Brundage - who by the request of Weird Tales editors - drew sensual imagery of women in peril. It was controversial and seen as perverted, but they moved issues, and even today they stand as memorable masterpieces of the glorious Golden Age of Pulps!!! Hell, the writers would compete to get their story illustrated, by being the most provocative! Check out this link of the <A HREF="http://www.shawnnacol.com/DM-Brundage.htm" REL="nofollow">interview with Margaret Brundage</A>. What I like about such art is how tasteful it is, without showing to much details (like blood and nipples), and often relies on symbolism and context. Its a shame it a lost art.<BR/><BR/>I never like like the dandy, tree-hugger Druids, or the animal-loving, tree-hugging Rangers - Hell, I hate D&D Paladins - who are soo holier-than-thou, they piss holy water! Solomon Kane was a Paladin, and his "smite evil" ability is a swift boot to the britches!! I always found the "morally ambiguous" of the Druids to be a reflection of nature itself - both ordered & chaotic, both life-giving & cruel.<BR/><BR/>I also agree with you about the Psionics system being a good alternative to standard spellcasting (if is was done right), as I always preferred a system that would allow for more "sword & sorcery" approach to magic.<BR/><BR/>I also liked how they left the names and number of the demons ambiguous. I kinda like making up their common "place holder" names, secret names, numbers, and their place in hell (the abyss, whatever).<BR/><BR/>Both intelligent weapons, and artifacts really add to the game then just static "plus whatever" magic items! I hate how magic items are just tools for the adventurers use. I like flavor! I like an element of strangeness! Magic items should be strange and unique. Most people think a setting like Hyboria is low-magic (or even no-magic), and dont think their are any magic items in the setting - if you do find one, it would rape your soul or something! The truth is, their are no "magical tools", in the Hyboria Age, as it handles magic items more or less like Artifacts and Relics.Malcadonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03111796978336546944noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-24682726378903449012009-02-12T20:57:00.000-05:002009-02-12T20:57:00.000-05:00These guys are freaky aberrations for the most par...<I>These guys are freaky aberrations for the most part, the stuff of nightmares rather than folklore</I><BR/><BR/>Indeed, when I was 9 years old (in 1977) I had a nightmare about a frog demon identical to the type II demon in Eldritch Wizardry; it crawled up out of the ground from a grave I had created when I was playing earlier that day. I had placed a tiki idol (it's supposed to ward off bad dreams, according to the man who sold it to me) over the grave. Even then I had a macabre imagination. Interestingly enough, that was a full two years before I was introduced to AD&D, so I had never even seen a type II demon before.sjanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05722064514085502251noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-55858503697257051072009-02-12T19:16:00.000-05:002009-02-12T19:16:00.000-05:00I seem to recall that the AD&D Lankhmar book r...I seem to recall that the AD&D Lankhmar book recommended splitting the Mu-U class into white and black varieties. The white magicians use the cleric and druid spell lists and the black ones use the regular M-U and illusionist ones.<BR/><BR/>There are no D&D-type spellcasting clerics in that world, though, so this approach works better there than it would in most campaigns.Will Mistrettahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18403399118961902073noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-25789985467159657422009-02-12T19:10:00.000-05:002009-02-12T19:10:00.000-05:00Flipping through Eldritch Wizardry recently myself...Flipping through Eldritch Wizardry recently myself and I lingered a bit on the druid spells. They'd work fine to replace the magic-user lists, maybe keep a couple of traditional mu spells like read magic and knock but in the main ditch the rest. Sure MU's would be a little more like "natural magicians" and as such a bit more like Gandalf and Merlin.<BR/>- J.D. JarvisAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-19595065923665133772009-02-12T17:14:00.000-05:002009-02-12T17:14:00.000-05:00I never got the hate for psionics, myself. Most of...I never got the hate for psionics, myself. Most of the complaints I've seen boil down to them being either a) not "in genre", b) "too complicated", or c) "overpowered.<BR/><BR/>I'm mainly familiar with the AD&D appendix version, but my take:<BR/><BR/>Not in genre? I don't think I even need to explain why this is dubious in a blog so focused on D&D's literary origins.<BR/><BR/>Too complex? You have psionic points. Psionic combat and power use saps them and rest restores them. This is no more complex than the hit point system. For psionic combat, just take a deep breath and follow the charts in the DMG. By the book, frying somebody's brain Scanners style is way easier to run than punching somebody. :)<BR/><BR/>Overpowered? Just wait and see how long a psionic PC can last before encounters with the various nasty psionic monsters on the encounter tables make him realize that there really is no such thing as a free lunch.<BR/><BR/>Then again, I'm okay with bards, too. A lot of extra hit points and a handful of special powers is a more or less fair trade for having your fighting and thieving abilities capped relatively low in the kind of double-digit level campaign that bards crop up in.Will Mistrettahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18403399118961902073noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-88810451581308692892009-02-12T16:04:00.000-05:002009-02-12T16:04:00.000-05:00I also think the illustration speaks volumes about...<I>I also think the illustration speaks volumes about how the cultures of both the hobby and the industry have changed since 1976</I><BR/><BR/>...like marketing to children? Your guide to the covers, a few months back, showed a cheerful adherence to sacrificial women as a value through 1e, and an abrupt ed to that with 2e: I wonder exactly when that happened and why?richardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13517340075234811323noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-19643966755712053662009-02-12T16:03:00.000-05:002009-02-12T16:03:00.000-05:00Psionics - I love in concept, but not execution. I...<I>Psionics - I love in concept, but not execution. I still think the 1e version is the best D&D psionics yet done. Which only means no one's really done a good version yet.</I><BR/><BR/>Well said.<BR/><BR/>I both hated and was morbidly fascinated with psionics back in the day. Actually much like that other 1st ed appended mess--Bards.Matthew Slepinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04056247825064943944noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-2037927439233549402009-02-12T15:53:00.000-05:002009-02-12T15:53:00.000-05:00Druids - I like as "monster" npcs from G...Druids - I like as "monster" npcs from Greyhawk better, but largely because of the late 1e/2e treehuggers that druids became rather than anything from EW.<BR/><BR/>Psionics - I love in concept, but not execution. I still think the 1e version is the best D&D psionics yet done. Which only means no one's really done a good version yet.<BR/><BR/>Demons and the other nasty brain-sucking monsters - Hells yeah!!!<BR/><BR/>Artifacts - The portion of the book I'm drawn back to over and over again. For some reason, I like the EW presentation better than the DMG version despite much of it being verbatim. Can't explain it other than when I'm looking at sprinkling a couple artifacts into a campaign world, I go to EW instead of the DMG.Chris Tichenorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11866673632888599928noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-11209487236642867882009-02-12T13:24:00.000-05:002009-02-12T13:24:00.000-05:00I likes the nekkid broad on tha cover too...>I ...I likes the nekkid broad on tha cover too...<BR/><BR/>>I always thought she was a stripper finishing her dance routine<<BR/><BR/>Ha ha ha - awe yeah, dog!<BR/><BR/>Thanks for the the intellectual side of this supplement James. In my blog all I could talk about was the nudity.<BR/><BR/>Druids have always been run only once in a blue moon in my world, so we generally tweaked them a bit to suit exactly what the player is shooting for. The druids having to fight to go up in levels was something I didn't use much - until I read The Golden Bough. Then that suddenly made some sense.<BR/><BR/>I never used psionics, because at 14 years old I couldn't figure them out. I never looked back...Kevin Machttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14122665488285424578noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-28092244125820748862009-02-12T12:41:00.000-05:002009-02-12T12:41:00.000-05:00I didn't think she was supposed to be a sacrifice,...I didn't think she was supposed to be a sacrifice, I always thought she was a stripper finishing her dance routine! :)Chad Thorsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15084711824869449643noreply@blogger.com