tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post3644218428765645726..comments2024-03-28T01:53:34.870-04:00Comments on GROGNARDIA: Retrospective: Space MarinesJames Maliszewskihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00341941102398271464noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-19587036015794084322023-06-25T13:31:40.219-04:002023-06-25T13:31:40.219-04:00So this is basically the Chainmail to Space Opera&...So this is basically the Chainmail to Space Opera's D&D... Fascinating. Murquhart72https://www.blogger.com/profile/03745964723393691143noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-80577891018701748762012-01-02T03:30:01.330-05:002012-01-02T03:30:01.330-05:00I had (probably still do, somewhere, but I've ...I had (probably still do, somewhere, but I've moved twice in the last 2 years after 50+ years at the one address ... so who knows?) copies of both the original Fantac and FGU versions, in fact, I had I copy of the Fantac rules well before Space Opera itself came out.<br /><br />The main differences, from memory, were that the Fantac original was basically printed from a photoset of a typewritten master with inked illustrations all mechanicaled (this was *way* before DTP software, remember) ... or that's the way it looked. Folded Letter size, I think.<br /><br />The contents? LESS would summarise it well. Less of everything. Rather like UK SF Miniature rules of the same period - Laserburn etc. - or like TSR's original Modern Miniatures rules (darn, forget the name now!), but not as professionally done.<br /><br />I did ask Mark several years ago on the one occasion when I actually had contact with him whether he was likely to do an update ... and his response was, more or less, no, he'd grown out of it ;-)<br /><br />Phil McGregor (yes, one of the SO three)aspqrzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15444253357421335678noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-79596639794837352532012-01-01T03:27:28.350-05:002012-01-01T03:27:28.350-05:00I have the FGU version, and yes, it did make more ...I have the FGU version, and yes, it did make more sense than Space Opera did, and the background info it had really added something to the setting. I no longer have SO, but I still have my copy of SM.Cord the Seekerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15768966473685556824noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-25767781747147117152011-12-29T18:11:31.818-05:002011-12-29T18:11:31.818-05:00I'd be tempted to dig up a copy just for the s...I'd be tempted to dig up a copy just for the setting information.Gridlorehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07557288070023480388noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-32457296240954923432011-12-29T11:42:14.095-05:002011-12-29T11:42:14.095-05:00I had a copy of the 1977 version and no longer hav...I had a copy of the 1977 version and no longer have it, but I kept the last few pages that Zenopus mentions. I kept them because I was an OD&D and MA fan, but I think in re-reading them now that the pages I kept don't make much sense without the rest of the rules. :(Finarvynhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09798730645810799962noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-91432945360744192782011-12-28T21:41:11.342-05:002011-12-28T21:41:11.342-05:00I've never read either version, but I know the...I've never read either version, but I know the 1977 Fantac version (which has a cover by David Sutherland) has extra rules for using Space Marines in D&D and Metamorphosis Alpha.<br /><br />More info here:<br /><a href="http://www.acaeum.com/forum/about4250.html" rel="nofollow">Space Marines by A. Mark Ratner</a>Zenopus Archiveshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14069501995927451558noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-61581738947072855102011-12-28T21:34:16.762-05:002011-12-28T21:34:16.762-05:00Slightly off topic, but I bought a .pdf copy of Sp...Slightly off topic, but I bought a .pdf copy of Space Opera for old time's sake recently. It was one of my favorite games back then. This was a time when I was enamored of rule-heavy games because I equated "inscrutable" with "serious." But it has some of the worst cover art that I have ever seen. <br /><br />Never delved into Space Marines though....Alcazarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08127432568180888934noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-16263552789892271852011-12-28T11:04:20.836-05:002011-12-28T11:04:20.836-05:00There is a sometimes amusing, somewhat enlightenin...There is a sometimes amusing, somewhat enlightening interview with Ratner about SM and SO from 2001, at http://www.space-opera.net/GB/interviews/mark.htm . I've never seen the '77 rules either.Robert Saint Johnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16063044279947754807noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-22261384956547409182011-12-28T10:35:37.637-05:002011-12-28T10:35:37.637-05:00Space Marines also fills in some of the rules that...Space Marines also fills in some of the rules that are never explained in Space Opera. I never knew how autofire really worked in Space Opera until I read a rules explanation in Space Marine (which I found in the used game section of my FLGS about 10 years after I first bought Space Opera).Stevehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16824690286389397665noreply@blogger.com