tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post4655815852305485619..comments2024-03-29T07:58:31.156-04:00Comments on GROGNARDIA: Epic HeroicaJames Maliszewskihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00341941102398271464noreply@blogger.comBlogger22125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-76891418025716932172012-05-01T11:54:52.526-04:002012-05-01T11:54:52.526-04:00Most of the LEGO games don't just beg for hous...Most of the LEGO games don't just beg for house rules, the manuals actively encourage rules customization. I don't know if the Heroica "sub line" has that element, though.<br /><br />Since even the dice are assembled from LEGO plates, though, it seems an obvious next step.Luke Styernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-86923588914867584052012-05-01T11:47:18.518-04:002012-05-01T11:47:18.518-04:00 Yeah, they do. Look closer. They have little ri... Yeah, they do. Look closer. They have little ridges. They all just have their hands in their pockets.Luke Styernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-10681388666652712482012-04-29T17:53:04.215-04:002012-04-29T17:53:04.215-04:00Those lego people have no arms . . . .Those lego people have no arms . . . .Josh Donovicknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-73074878651871629922012-04-29T03:42:00.588-04:002012-04-29T03:42:00.588-04:00That was exactly my thinking - Hasbro's had TW...That was exactly my thinking - Hasbro's had TWO competing clone lines in the last decade. The first one was pretty nasty and died fast, but the current KRE-O seems to be doing acceptably for the moment. bibulbnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-48770203243941044102012-04-27T15:31:50.977-04:002012-04-27T15:31:50.977-04:00And, thanks for the new commenting system! I'...And, thanks for the new commenting system! I'm able to comment without a problem now.John Fialahttp://jcfiala.livejournal.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-67953379457178411482012-04-27T15:31:31.129-04:002012-04-27T15:31:31.129-04:00Although I haven't gotten to it yet, I think T...Although I haven't gotten to it yet, I think Tunnels & Trolls would make a great system for Heroica. John Fialahttp://jcfiala.livejournal.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-70030211850573005382012-04-25T16:14:54.824-04:002012-04-25T16:14:54.824-04:00heck, my kids just take my minis and add them to t...heck, my kids just take my minis and add them to their Heroica game.Stephen Warknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-58387523548044242642012-04-25T09:31:50.149-04:002012-04-25T09:31:50.149-04:00Wow... there's a real paroxysm of nerd rage, r...Wow... there's a real paroxysm of nerd rage, right there.Guestnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-48079585479911317472012-04-25T02:31:29.289-04:002012-04-25T02:31:29.289-04:00I have yet to play Heroica, but I've played a ...I have yet to play Heroica, but I've played a lot of BrickQuest.<br /><br />I love D&D and I love Legos, so when I heard about it, I had to go ahead and do it. It's an investment of time (designing and building dungeons) as well as money (Legos are not cheap), but it's totally worth it, IMHO. I've played with some hardened role-players, and with their children, and it's always a lot of fun.<br /><br />I've only played a little bit of 4E, but BrickQuest seems to be in the same vein. There's a grid based combat system, spells (which end up being very powerful), potions, treasure, and even a rudimentary skills system. As a GM who's played mostly 1E, I've really had to beef up my grid based tactics when playing against those with a lot of 4E experience.<br /><br />There's actually been a lot of discussion in the group I play with as to whether BrickQuest counts as an RPG or not. I can see it going either way. But according to its creator, it's a boardgame, and I have to agree with him. You can certainly play it like an RPG, but there's nothing in the rules that really supports it.Carl Fonerhttp://www.facebook.com/people/Carl-Foner/500262594noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-64367483247821032452012-04-25T01:52:29.521-04:002012-04-25T01:52:29.521-04:00You know, these are the kinds of stupid incorrect ...You know, these are the kinds of stupid incorrect fanboy comments that make Something Awful's Grognards.txt thread make fun of people for.<br /><br />4e is NOTHING like Heroica. NOTHING. Is 4e akin to stuff like Final Fantasy Tactics or Disgaea? Sure. Hell, its a lot like modern videogames like Splatterhouse or any other 3d action game where the design is effectively about going into a setpiece arena then killing everything there, healing up/using supplies then moving on to the next.<br /><br />But it isnt a damned thing like Heroica which is more or less a very simple boardgame with very light RPG elements. Lighter than Dragon Strike. Lighter than Hero Quest. Waaay lighter than Descent or Warhammer Quest.<br /><br />4e is an RPG. Its just more of a STRATEGY RPG with some modern videogame enhancements than the older styles of D&D were. Its more about the combat than anything else. Not that D&D is really about anything other than combat honestly. Its just 4e like every version of D&D did some things right (class balance, combat codified but not massively complex, removed randomization in Chargen), and it did other things WRONG. (Kind of soulless, Skill Challenges suck ass, fights tend to take an age to resolve, too much emphasis on combat encounters to the near exclusion of all else, cosmology screwed up.)Captain Rufus Landalenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-5651150173968056072012-04-24T20:48:43.608-04:002012-04-24T20:48:43.608-04:00At my house, we use Playmobil. They're customi...At my house, we use Playmobil. They're customizable. How cool would it be if you could snap your D&D character together with custom weapons, armor, cloak?<br /><br />Photo at:<br /><br />http://blueboxerrebellion.blogspot.com/2012/04/slaymobil-aka-preskool-renaissance.htmlDoug Andersonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-33339154838988234272012-04-24T20:32:07.706-04:002012-04-24T20:32:07.706-04:00Heroica and rpgkids are two excellent intros to ga...Heroica and rpgkids are two excellent intros to gaming for the young folks. My 7 year old is almost ready to make the leap to a "real" rpg and I have a 1.5 year old that will be entering the queue in a few short years.<br /><br />Also, Heroica is a Lego game so it doesn't carry the same stigma as "Dungeons & Dragons" with the other neighborhood parents (after all these years, still lots of residual distrust of D&D in the deep South). This allows me to spread gaming to a wider group of children without having my own child blackballed.Sean Prevonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-83187639884812188282012-04-24T18:32:01.461-04:002012-04-24T18:32:01.461-04:00I agree it would be an awesome combination, but as...I agree it would be an awesome combination, but as to WOTC's 'expensive' minis - have you seen how much the Lego store charges for minifigs of licensed characters? Not exactly a cheap alternative.Victor Von Davehttp://victor-von-dave.myopenid.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-10976822166671849902012-04-24T18:31:25.542-04:002012-04-24T18:31:25.542-04:00I bought my daughter (age 3) the main Heroica set ...I bought my daughter (age 3) the main Heroica set a while back. She totally loves it and I've been able to teach her about saving money, too. We put her money in a cup until we have enough, then we go and buy an expansion set.<br /><br />Also, yes, the game begs for house rules. We've made a 2d6 table for the game, written on an index card, so she gets to learn a bit of arithmetic in the process as well.Jeremy Deramnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-79023388259025078642012-04-24T16:50:09.673-04:002012-04-24T16:50:09.673-04:00LEGO+D&D! Yes! I've thought the same thing...LEGO+D&D! Yes! I've thought the same thing. With Lego Starwars, Indiana Jones, Ninjago, Pirates, Castles, etc, etc. Why not Lego Dungeons and Dragons? For Lego it's just another property, for D&D it adds another option for grid-based dungeon crawling and combat that doesn't require their crappy looking and expensive plastic minis (that they never could quite market correctly anyway).Santinjnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-52075608810257746222012-04-24T16:36:40.761-04:002012-04-24T16:36:40.761-04:00The tendency is to think of games like this and He...The tendency is to think of games like this and HeroQuest as RPGs with training wheels, but I tend to think they teach bad RPG habits and misconceptions about what roleplaying is and kids versed in this sort of thing have some unlearning to do. I'd go as far as to say they are a mistep between playing with action figures and roleplaying. Toys=you can do anyhing! Boardgame=roll a die, move that many squares...J Spooktalkernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-87455495525966598812012-04-24T16:26:29.796-04:002012-04-24T16:26:29.796-04:00I imagine James sees that potential progression an...I imagine James sees that potential progression and is just pulling our legs. Surely Heroica serves only to remind us of the joys of the early Lego experience?<br /><br />Joking aside, what's the definition of a 'real RPG'?Porky_Posterhttp://theporkster.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-84630131974922891852012-04-24T15:48:12.405-04:002012-04-24T15:48:12.405-04:00Doesn't Hasbro have a Lego clone brand they...Doesn't Hasbro have a Lego clone brand they're pushing?Beaunoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-42367474780143295322012-04-24T15:44:53.063-04:002012-04-24T15:44:53.063-04:00Actually, when it comes to boardgames, Wizards is ...Actually, when it comes to boardgames, Wizards is a brand to be trusted. The three D&D Adventure Game boardgames (Drizzt, Ravenloft and Ashardalon) are easily amongst the best dungeoncrawlers out there and the newest addition–"Lords of Waterdeep"–is the best combination of US thematic and EURO gaming I've seen.Filip Stojakhttp://profiles.google.com/filip.stojaknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-28275597903041937962012-04-24T14:42:38.660-04:002012-04-24T14:42:38.660-04:00I've very much enjoyed the Dungeons & Drag...I've very much enjoyed the Dungeons & Dragons boardgames that Hasbro has released over the past few years. They are wonderful gateway games. They are also rooted enough in the d20 mechanic that it makes teaching 4e or Pathfinder to experienced D&D Boardgame players pretty easy.<br /><br />I agree that a D&D Lego set would be awesome...especially if it included Warduke and Strongheart.Christian Lindkenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-22666248278353547602012-04-24T14:28:57.173-04:002012-04-24T14:28:57.173-04:00I've wondered why Lego and Hasbro haven't ...I've wondered why Lego and Hasbro haven't teamed up for WotC properties too! I understand you were talking about analogue games, but the possibilities don't seem limited to that. DnD seems perfect for video games. Duals of the Planeswalkers has been wildly successful for Magic, why not try to leverage a lego version too? Seems obvious to me.Troy Costisicknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-76654320741330013982012-04-24T14:28:11.061-04:002012-04-24T14:28:11.061-04:00every time I play this game I keep thinking how ea...<i>every time I play this game I keep thinking how easy it'd be to create <br />an "advanced" version that is just a step or two removed from a real <br />RPG.</i><br /><br />It's already been done. They call it 4E. ;-)Josephhttp://heathenhall.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.com