tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post4677788580160067675..comments2024-03-29T00:32:33.920-04:00Comments on GROGNARDIA: The Ads of Dragon: Music for Adventure GamingJames Maliszewskihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00341941102398271464noreply@blogger.comBlogger19125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-20727335774780186562011-09-25T19:10:41.075-04:002011-09-25T19:10:41.075-04:00Maybe the dude liked D&D? Stranger things have...Maybe the dude liked D&D? Stranger things have happened.gdbackushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09245941451462450346noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-50773928636563661882011-09-24T22:20:25.206-04:002011-09-24T22:20:25.206-04:00If you're the ad exec why not give it a whirl?...If you're the ad exec why not give it a whirl? You never know what might catch on and if you don't give it a shot well it just won't happen.Rainforest Gianthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05240761465708154282noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-35865831455451669172011-09-23T20:54:25.032-04:002011-09-23T20:54:25.032-04:00A couple of times I played the Conan the Barbarian...A couple of times I played the <i>Conan the Barbarian</i> soundtrack during D&D sessions, and it set the mood perfectly.Loren Rosson IIIhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15002312216839280976noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-19107304427689541112011-09-23T10:07:08.359-04:002011-09-23T10:07:08.359-04:00I wonder if the distraction, for me, has more to d...I wonder if the distraction, for me, has more to do with the fact that I have a hard time distinguishing between background sounds and foreground sounds. If I'm listening to music, I tend to strain if someone tries to talk to me, and vice versa.<br /><br />Or perhaps my ears are poor multitaskers!Danielhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00851335695807313040noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-21732747889759274862011-09-23T05:03:27.643-04:002011-09-23T05:03:27.643-04:00He and the two models in the first ad were at GenC...He and the two models in the first ad were at GenCon in a vendor's booth the year those bits ran in Dragon. It was the first GenCon (85? 86?) that was held in MECCA in Milwaukee. I didn't exactly keep a close watch, but I never saw anyone stop at his booth the entire weekend. I felt kind of bad for him.Piperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12770517741281593733noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-69006422984752378162011-09-23T00:05:09.067-04:002011-09-23T00:05:09.067-04:00Black Sabbath and Iron MaidenBlack Sabbath and Iron Maidenjeffsabhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00008073631783442508noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-34427731437236090242011-09-22T21:17:16.103-04:002011-09-22T21:17:16.103-04:00i think this is more a case of a zealous ad-rep or...i think this is more a case of a zealous ad-rep or merchant than an indicator of marketability. The fact that the address of the company is in either Madison or Milwaukee (I cant really tell)indicates that it's a local who probably had a networked connection with TSR. It could also be a smart merchant who saw a chance to move some product. <br />a little google-jitsu indicates this guy was pretty "big" in the mid eighties for bellydance. If you want to hear a bit of his stuff, its herein podcast #49: <br /><br />http://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/radio-bastet-vintage-belly/id211525170<br /><br />and it's in the background here:<br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ObeMVlSzmLINilonimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17631112372990712584noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-76945147534478207812011-09-22T20:06:45.514-04:002011-09-22T20:06:45.514-04:00"Or they're not" going to be able to..."Or they're not" going to be able to do anything else while it's on. Music totally catches their attention and distracts them. They find it hard to understand a conversation while music is on. That's what I meant.Bansheehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12594214770417497135noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-47006363161120355062011-09-22T20:04:24.096-04:002011-09-22T20:04:24.096-04:00Re: the ad, thank you so much for investigating! I...Re: the ad, thank you so much for investigating! I figured that was the kind of music it was, but not knowing for sure bugged me for years!<br /><br />Re: gaming to music, I think I'd like it, if only to promote more of a flow state. But most DMs I know are the kind of people who really can't listen to music as background. (They are either listening to music with all their attention, or they're not.) <br /><br />It's kind of odd to me, as I'm the kind of person who can talk and type at the same time and finds background music a help to almost anything except composing music myself; but I appreciate those folks whose brains work otherwise. <br /><br />Re: looking for music, the composer Bax would be good.<br /><br />And the theme song idea is cool. :)Bansheehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12594214770417497135noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-69241623170523355792011-09-22T19:02:37.723-04:002011-09-22T19:02:37.723-04:00I have never played music during one of my games, ...I have never played music during one of my games, for dramatic or thematic purposes, or even as background ambiance. Nor do I intend to ever start.<br />I did play in a long-running game where the DM was really into playing music during the game, and he would cue up different pieces depending on what was happening - battle music, villain music, etc. I hated it. The only thing I liked about it was that the game had opening theme music which I enjoyed, as it helped us switch our real-world minds off and get into character, or at least gaming-mode.Cord the Seekerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15768966473685556824noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-79955953755957566592011-09-22T17:09:36.634-04:002011-09-22T17:09:36.634-04:00Daniel said “How does the music thing work?..... d...Daniel said “How does the music thing work?..... do you have to speed up your descriptions if you know the tone of the next song is wrong? Do you hit pause when inappropriate music comes on? It doesn't annoy you when "battle music" comes on during tense diplomatic détentes?”<br /><br />Ideally, if one is to incorporate music into their campaign/game session it behoves them to think about it in detail ahead of time. Or at least, that is the way I have done it. I think of it like scoring a film or t.v. show. Plan to use the appropriate music at the appropriate time. I almost never just have stuff playing on repeat, droning endlessly in the background (learned that one from experience), unless you are trying to emulate a video game imho, I suppose that could work; provided it is a soundscape –type of score being used.<br /><br />In this day and age of computers & mp3 players, it’s really easy to be your own musical director, making playlists, cuing them up at the right times etc....And with the internet it is not to difficult to acquire any type of music one would want to set a mood for. That’s my two cents however.Chris#6https://www.blogger.com/profile/08305925037284931371noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-58854321780941844182011-09-22T17:06:32.522-04:002011-09-22T17:06:32.522-04:00You can get software designed to make it quick and...You can get software designed to make it quick and easy to cue appropriate music. Unfortunately it requires a healthy library of carefully tagged music. It also can be problematic when you're playing "tense" music intended for 5 or maybe 10 minutes in movies over an hour of an extended combat. At some point I intend to experiment with it, but I haven't gotten to it (stupid tagging).<br /><br />I saw one guy at Gen Con this year use music to supplement his Lucha Libre game. He had specific tracks for specific scenes. His players seemed to enjoy it.<br /><br />Meanwhile, like most people, I sometimes just have generic music (movie soundtracks work well) in the background. It adds a little to the ambiance, but it's not so loud that if the mood is wrong it's a big deal.<br /><br />As for belly dance music, it's a neat idea! A lot of belly dance music has a strong middle-eastern, classical feel that evokes the distant, exotic, and a bit fantastic to a western audience. I'll have to look into it.Alan De Smethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09091994420717419182noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-43788335643597454782011-09-22T16:14:09.317-04:002011-09-22T16:14:09.317-04:00When I ran the original version of the Star Wars R...When I ran the original version of the Star Wars RPG back in the late 80's we would play the John Williams score in the background. If the tone of the music didn't match what was going on in the game nobody really cared because it was just in the background. If were running a campaign now, I'd totally have some ambient background music on just because I enjoy it. When I read, I have to have something on in the background such as classical or ambient and I could not imagine not doing the same if I were gaming. For me, the music shouldn't be loud and obnoxious but just softly and in the background.Gavinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07397554099246666778noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-15527173635907843532011-09-22T15:56:53.831-04:002011-09-22T15:56:53.831-04:00That is an excellent album cover. I love both of t...That is an excellent album cover. I love both of their facial expressions. Looks like they're <em>serious</em> about what they're doing.richardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13517340075234811323noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-36349512150109638292011-09-22T15:46:39.299-04:002011-09-22T15:46:39.299-04:00Dan:
I don't know about anybody else, but I d...Dan:<br /><br />I don't know about anybody else, but I don't use the music as some kind of game prop. It's just background music, like at a party or just hanging out sipping a cocktail. Adds to the overall feel and fun. If it happens to fit whatever is going on in the game, then great (1982 Conan soundtrack for combat works great, old English folk music for taverns, etc) but nothing on purpose really. I love music and am a musician myself, most of my friends are world musicians, so my life is full of great sounds. Why not have it in a game as well? Try it. <br /><br />http://templeofdemogorgon.blogspot.com/2010/07/vasen-best-music-for-your-game.html<br /><br />http://templeofdemogorgon.blogspot.com/2011/03/radio-rivendell.html<br /><br /><br /><br />Some DM's find background music distracting, and in most of those cases I think they are taking their own thoughts too seriously. But I have never had a players say "could you turn that down?"Kevin Machttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14122665488285424578noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-40917649776721041092011-09-22T14:41:30.827-04:002011-09-22T14:41:30.827-04:00Never, ever ran or played or game with music. Know...Never, ever ran or played or game with music. Know many gamers, new and old, who do it occasionally or frequently.<br /><br />I'd do props (which I also don't ever use, not even for CoC) before I ever incorporated music.<br /><br />How does the music thing work? (It obviously does for many.) I mean, do you have to speed up your descriptions if you know the tone of the next song is wrong? Do you hit pause when inappropriate music comes on? It doesn't annoy you when "battle music" comes on during tense diplomatic detentes?<br /><br />These are serious questions from a guy who, 30 years hence, still has enough on his hands to keep the game engaging without having to worry about the A/V Club. <br /><br />Obviously, some of this has to do with talent and inclination, of which I have none in this regard.Danielhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00851335695807313040noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-34236864133404263812011-09-22T13:57:20.973-04:002011-09-22T13:57:20.973-04:00I have a tough time running a game these days with...I have a tough time running a game these days without music. It's one of the main things I don't like about running a public game.<br /><br />Pandora and Radio Rivendell are getting some experimenting at games, but I still love to spin things like Mike Oldfeld, The Orb, and some classical.Kevin Machttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14122665488285424578noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-85700548387438508472011-09-22T13:47:07.637-04:002011-09-22T13:47:07.637-04:00Holy crap! if it isn't already, that album co...Holy crap! if it isn't already, that album cover should be listed at The Museum of Bad Album Covers:<br /><br />http://www.zonicweb.net/badalbmcvrs/index.htm<br /><br />Or on the 100 Worst Album Covers EVER site:<br />http://rateyourmusic.com/list/djlanda/the_100_worst_album_covers_ever<br /><br />Where you can find gems like Rick James' "Throwin' Down", which is surprisingly appropriate, in this case:<br />http://static.rateyourmusic.com/album_images/23073877a6448351deacdc3906c3e44b/145789.jpgGrumpy Old Manhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11087904102183244773noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-64853832158279378612011-09-22T09:22:44.856-04:002011-09-22T09:22:44.856-04:00It's probably not that much of a stretch - it ...It's probably not that much of a stretch - it looks like these Lotus Records people weren't exactly behemoths of the music industry. Considering that their primary market for belly-dancing records would have been belly-dancing venues, adding gamers looking for Middle Eastern-themed background music to that would likely have represented a substantial increase of their target audience even with today's numbers in the hobby, let alone when it was in its heyday.Arthurhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02082868759668427041noreply@blogger.com