tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post7512356064176209535..comments2024-03-18T20:22:06.331-04:00Comments on GROGNARDIA: Retrospective: FringeworthyJames Maliszewskihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00341941102398271464noreply@blogger.comBlogger24125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-31428434699207648082011-04-20T14:19:26.074-04:002011-04-20T14:19:26.074-04:00Every version of Fringeworthy is available as a pd...Every version of Fringeworthy is available as a pdf on the Tri Tac Games website. The d20 version is mostly concept and setting with minor reference to the D20 Modern rulesystem. I hope everyone gives it a try.Bruce Shefferhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00977033100593632684noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-33248153740841474362011-04-05T13:01:31.683-04:002011-04-05T13:01:31.683-04:00Savage Worlds isn't my first-choice system, bu...Savage Worlds isn't my first-choice system, but it strikes me as a good fit for a "Fringeworthy/Stargate" kind of game. It would almost certainly be better than the original rules. I'll look forward to seeing it.Anthonyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01254215329246851683noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-41259724662596205572011-04-05T10:15:34.787-04:002011-04-05T10:15:34.787-04:00Fringeworthy D20 version PDF only version is avail...Fringeworthy D20 version PDF only version is available on tritac website. Looks like a Savage Worlds version is coming soon. Weekly podcast too. With a great concept and some cleaner rules I might give Fringeworthy another try.SMoorehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16143188878734105202noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-89113760502735969432011-04-02T20:01:45.114-04:002011-04-02T20:01:45.114-04:00Fringeworthy, FTL 2448, Stalking the Night Fantast...Fringeworthy, FTL 2448, Stalking the Night Fantastic; all of them had one thing in common. An amazing core concept and 325 soul-destroying rules to kill it. Richard was a genius in several ways. He did a lot for the hobby, and is especially well remembered for Stalking the Night Fantastic. <br /><br />He originated many of the concepts we think of in the fan culture today.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17351640470092339739noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-61989788351656696462011-04-01T10:18:27.737-04:002011-04-01T10:18:27.737-04:00Argh! I'm offline for part of a week but readi...Argh! I'm offline for part of a week but reading through my copy of Fringeworthy 2E in prep for a review and now James goes and mentions it the same week! Too funny! I'll post my thoughts up next week but it's remarkable to me how a fairly obscure game can cross two minds at about the same time like this.Blacksteelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16289298640828309072noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-84944712450213521722011-03-31T16:06:20.822-04:002011-03-31T16:06:20.822-04:00I had both Fringeworthy and its sister game Stalki...I had both Fringeworthy and its sister game Stalking the Night Fantastic (later called Bureau 13, I believe - the characters played Men in Black in a horror milieu, basically) and both had great settings and absolutely horrible, unplayable rules.TheShadowKnowshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11073693648569864707noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-41750961368442969252011-03-31T12:55:50.199-04:002011-03-31T12:55:50.199-04:00In fact, today's e23 release of Space Gamer in...In fact, today's e23 release of Space Gamer includes not only a Fringeworthy review, but a Designer's Notes column as well.Stevehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15039997817901860557noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-34634185917271652262011-03-31T09:59:02.955-04:002011-03-31T09:59:02.955-04:00The game certainly sounds interesting, but I think...The game certainly sounds interesting, but I think I'd have a hard time playing it without making "<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Sponge" rel="nofollow">spongeworthy</a>" jokes.Picadorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01244353406711565712noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-22807617620212936012011-03-31T09:55:42.523-04:002011-03-31T09:55:42.523-04:00Today's e23 release announcement over at SJG i...Today's e23 release announcement over at SJG is an issue of Space Gamer with a review of Fringeworthy mentioned on the cover.<br /><br />Not available in the store yet, though.Rob Crawfordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03010767328260010949noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-21095366083004028852011-03-31T07:54:37.590-04:002011-03-31T07:54:37.590-04:00All this talk about crystals and Stargate, and yet...All this talk about crystals and <i>Stargate</i>, and yet no one's mentioned Syd & Marty Krofft's <i>Land Of The Lost</i>?<br /><br />The Sleestaks and their crystal-powered "Pylon Portals" know what time it is.Justin S. Davishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14881276106170920830noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-47324328987400797992011-03-30T18:24:51.651-04:002011-03-30T18:24:51.651-04:00Stargate made frequent use of parallel worlds. The...Stargate made frequent use of parallel worlds. The crossings usually happened because of a gate accident.Anthonyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01254215329246851683noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-42761147956844597092011-03-30T18:18:34.453-04:002011-03-30T18:18:34.453-04:00There was a hostile race called something like the...There was a hostile race called something like the Milar which spawned a corny running joke about it being "milar time" whenever the hostiles were encountered.<br /><br />Fringeworthy was pretty comprehensive but I never got to play it very much myself.<br />It wasn't "Star Gate" because the gates of Fringeworthy don't limit one to our physical universe but instead open to a wide variety of alternate universes as well as far removed worlds.JDJarvishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07691101939920824546noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-26620686752805034162011-03-30T15:50:02.705-04:002011-03-30T15:50:02.705-04:00At the time that the first Stargate film came out,...At the time that the first Stargate film came out, Tucholka stated that he thought they had ripped him off. <br /><br />The rules are pretty dire, but there's nothing to the story setup that can't be handled by any system that can handle both modern and futuristic settings.<br /><br />Even though I never got to play it, I have a soft spot in my heart for Fringeworthy. As a kid my mother once took away all my RPG stuff until my grades improved, but she somehow missed the Fringeworthy rulebook. I spent the next three months trying to re-write it into a playable system.Knightskyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08397391662639446678noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-71368110560875885082011-03-30T13:32:58.819-04:002011-03-30T13:32:58.819-04:00Forgive the double post, but I just took a second ...<i>Forgive the double post, but I just took a second look at the cover; there seems to have been a better case for a suit than I thought.</i><br /><br />Yes, I was about to retort "look at the cover!" but you beat me to it. The cover image is a Stargate; it's even got the little ramp.thekelvingreenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01928260185408072124noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-38312908256291490082011-03-30T13:16:55.846-04:002011-03-30T13:16:55.846-04:00One of my friends has this. Every time I visit his...One of my friends has this. Every time I visit his house I flip through it.tedoponhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18390659501629920232noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-13950699955672939892011-03-30T13:10:19.632-04:002011-03-30T13:10:19.632-04:00I gamed with Richard back in the early '80s, b...I gamed with Richard back in the early '80s, but never played Fringeworthy. I do recall the D&D campaign that was the precursor to this...the giant ring that brought us from epoch to epoch was affectionately nick-named the "Time Bagel".amp108https://www.blogger.com/profile/06730954482557756380noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-64104554897824494792011-03-30T12:30:19.662-04:002011-03-30T12:30:19.662-04:00Bizarre. Following the links, I discovered that th...Bizarre. Following the links, I discovered that the outfit now publishing The Morrow Project is located less than a mile from my home...metamorphosissigmahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18163514061779555557noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-12273269339410146802011-03-30T12:16:27.241-04:002011-03-30T12:16:27.241-04:00Had a friend in high school who owned this and I b...Had a friend in high school who owned this and I borrowed it for a couple of weeks. I never played it though he did run some sessions with it. At the time we were enamored of complex rules systems like these. I remember loving the fact that it modeled the protective armor capabilities of a belt, that's the defining characteristic of the system that's stuck in my head for all these years ;-)<br /><br />I do also remember loving the setup of the portal system.<br /><br />Anyway thanks for the walk down memory lane, and for the link to their site, I had no idea they were still updating and publishing the system 20 something years later.davidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12862910834435390853noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-29867340470153681502011-03-30T12:12:52.328-04:002011-03-30T12:12:52.328-04:00That is almost Stargate SG-1 to a tee. The movie d...That is almost Stargate SG-1 to a tee. The movie doesn't get into the technology much but man this sounds like out the script bible of SG-1.<br /><br />While the gates can be operated by anybody they have an ancient gene that certain human possess that allows them to operate various artifacts.Robert Conleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03863009007381185340noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-31457029939491204322011-03-30T11:31:50.660-04:002011-03-30T11:31:50.660-04:00Tri Tac is still alive: http://www.tritacgames.com...Tri Tac is still alive: http://www.tritacgames.com/netherwerkshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08361800925618339097noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-37909889975956548752011-03-30T10:55:28.820-04:002011-03-30T10:55:28.820-04:00Forgive the double post, but I just took a second ...Forgive the double post, but I just took a second look at the cover; there seems to have been a better case for a suit than I thought.Anthonyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01254215329246851683noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-45305611868241212042011-03-30T10:52:45.223-04:002011-03-30T10:52:45.223-04:00I recall seeing Fringeworthy in my FLGS when it ca...I recall seeing Fringeworthy in my FLGS when it came out, but the system always looked too complicated for my tastes. It's a shame, because, years later, I became a big fan of the Stargate series and thought "that would make a great game."<br /><br />Well, what do you know. ;-)<br /><br />Actually, the accusation that Stargate "borrowed" from Fringeworthy has been around since the 90s, and the passage quoted by Rob is striking, but the idea of alien portals to elsewhere is older than both: Pohl's "Heechee" series, for example, though that used little ships instead of walking through a portal. One might as well say von Daniken could sue the makers of Stargate, too, since they ripped off his "ancient astronauts" books.<br /><br />Regardless, I still think this idea is one of the great premises for a RPG, ever.Anthonyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01254215329246851683noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-70219226723406305902011-03-30T10:16:23.719-04:002011-03-30T10:16:23.719-04:00Umm...I'm thinking they could have sued the St...Umm...I'm thinking they could have sued the Stargate people.John Stephenshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08458455311334390928noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-87115665225570733042011-03-30T10:14:07.106-04:002011-03-30T10:14:07.106-04:00"Fringworthy postulates a near-future world i..."Fringworthy postulates a near-future world in which a team of Japanese Antarctic researchers stumbles upon an ancient system of portals that allows travel to alternate and alien worlds. Use of the portals depended upon an alien crystal-based technology that worked only for a select few individuals. Such individuals were deemed "Fringeworthy" by the press and the name stuck."<br /><br />Pardon me, but I think you just explained the origins of the Stargate franchise.Rob Crawfordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03010767328260010949noreply@blogger.com