Earlier in the month, I was thinking about "outer space" in the context of my Dwimmermount campaign and OD&D's treatment of the planes. Since then, I've given it some more thought and have decided that I'd be conflating the Astral Plane and interplanetary space. This is pretty easy to do, since there aren't many Astral-related effects in OD&D until very high levels. Since I'm sticking to the LBB's spell levels, this is even easier. Now, outer space -- which I'll probably call "astral space" or something similar -- will, unlike the traditional Astral Plane, be a place characters can enter physically rather than spiritually. There are no silver cords or bodies left behind on earth or anything of that sort. Instead, it'll be a vast void between the worlds, inhabited by numerous creatures malevolent and benign and requiring the use of certain protective spells and/or items to survive if one is not native to this environment. Interestingly, I like the idea of the Ethereal Plane as presented in OD&D, but, alas, the name has to go, since astral space, as I'm now conceiving it, is suffused with ether. That necessitates a new name for the Ethereal Plane, but that's a small point.
Astral space is getting any consideration at all, because the campaign -- and I'm now two session recaps behind, I know -- is getting to the point where the days when the Thulians rose up in rebellion against the Red Elves of Areon will prove important. From the beginning of the campaign, I wanted to make it possible for the PCs to travel to the Red Planet and interact with its inhabitants. As I've noted numerous times, I'm a big fan of Burroughs and Areon is definitely an homage/pastiche of the Barsoom, albeit a somewhat more sinister/Lovecraftian one. The Eld once traveled across astral space, seeking out new sources of azoth, after having spent millennia depleting Areon's own supply of it. This magical catastrophe has brought the planet low, reducing it to a dust-blown desert where Chaos now has free rein and Eldritch dominions war with one another -- and their former slaves -- for the last remaining sources of azoth, which guarantees not only their survival on a dying world but also promises the chance of reclaiming their lost empire.
I'm not in any hurry to get the PCs to the Red Planet -- or the Green Planet of Kythirea, for that matter -- but I would like to see them get there some day. There are several portals within Dwimmermount that lead to Areon and there are a couple of sections within the megadungeon where Eldritch influences are still apparent. I know I'll enjoy injecting dashes of Burroughs and Kline into the campaign. It's something I've wanted to do since I started poring over the LBBs and saw all those references to banths, tharks, and white apes. With luck, 2010 will be the year when I finally get to do it.
call it the Spectral Plane
ReplyDelete@forvrin - Spectral Plane - mmm, like the sound of that so much that I'm stealing it. Thanks!
ReplyDeleteI realize that it was a purely AD&D, way-past-the-Golden-Age creation, but it sounds like a little Spelljammer action in Dwimmermount? While there was much NOT to like about Spelljammer, I think that there was a lot to like as well. Have you given it any thought?
ReplyDeleteConsider this a "third" for Spectral Plane. And the campaign sounds like it's going to be a lot of fun in the coming year. :)
ReplyDelete'Sidereal' is a nice synonym for 'Astral' and also has the connotation of ghostly or haunted.
ReplyDeleteDoesn't 'spectral' mean 'visible'? I'm not sure why that makes a good alternate to 'astral' considering space has stars and astral literally means "having to do with stars".
ReplyDeleteDid you read my post on this subject on dragonsfoot general forum last week?
-bargle
Nick,
ReplyDeleteThe most basic ideas behind Spelljammer are (mostly) pretty sound, but the development of those ideas just left me cold. There's too little there to make it worth mining for ideas when I can just as easily come up with my own.
Bargle,
ReplyDeleteI don't visit Dragonsfoot all that regularly, so I probably missed that thread. I'll go take a look and see if there's anything that of use to me.
I might be too much of a traditionalist, but the different moons and stuff are things I would love to see on tapestries or murals. I'm not sure I'd want an unexpected trip to one of the Moons, unless it was a limited, one-session adventure. The ideas you present are really cool, though.
ReplyDeleteYou may recall dungeon maps in CSIO that mention portals to Mars/Venus. I've been wanting to send my players there for years. Re-reading A Princess of Mars as I write this. :)
ReplyDeleteConsidering the purpose of the Ethereal Plane, it might be perfectly acceptable to call it the Spirit World, or perhaps the Otherworld.
ReplyDeleteThe Ethereal plane could be called the Other Side if you want something with a traditional ring to it, or the Spirit World as the other post, or simply the Gray (I believe this is from Darksun).
ReplyDeleteThe Astral Plane could be the Astral Gulf or Astral Depths or the Void, or something of a similar Lovecraftian flavor.
I agree that the Spelljammer was a nice idea never truly realized in the execution.
I totally understand your excitement at anticipating the eventual exploration of other planets and the space between, whether that is astral or otherwise. I have been waiting eagerly for my Mutant Future campaign to blast off into outerspace for a while, or to other dimensions through the plane shift mutation.
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